Lost innocence or hormonal hazard?

Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 6:02 PM PT

By Dr. Billy Goldberg and Mark Leyner

 

Dr. Billy Goldberg:

I was working overnight in the ER last week and I saw a simple case that left me rattled and worried. This wasn’t some gruesome trauma or a heart-wrenching medical story. It was simply the case of a 10-year-old girl whose parents brought her in for what turned out to be her first menstrual period.

 

What disturbed me was when the pediatrics resident mentioned that they consider the normal range of menarche, the onset of menstruation, to be anywhere from 8 to 14 years. Eight years old!

 

I have mentioned in this blog that I have two young children at home – a 2-year-old boy and a 3-month-old girl. Eight just doesn’t seem that far away. This sent me on a quest to investigate what happened to the innocence of youth.

 

It turns out that experts agree that the average age at menarche has dropped by 2.5 to 4 months over the past 25 years – and is now 12.5 years. Eight is still very early but it doesn’t necessarily get doctors scurrying to search for a cause of what is called precocious puberty.

 

There are many theories about what is causing earlier puberty. Pre-pubertal obesity has been shown to lower the age of menarche. Also linked to early menstruation are chemicals such as phthalate esters, which are added to vinyl to make it flexible, and are found in toys, vinyl floor and wall coverings, food packaging, pesticides, detergents, pharmaceuticals, and personal care products such as nail polish, sunscreen, shampoo and lotions. Hormones in meat and milk, and other “environmental estrogens” have been implicated.

 

One of the most intriguing theories is that stressful family situations can lead to early maturation and puberty. The evidence isn’t overwhelmingly strong for some of these theories, but that doesn’t keep me from worrying about my little girl.

 

Earlier onset of puberty is associated with health concerns beyond the loss of youthful innocence. Girls with premature puberty are at a higher risk for developing obesity, type 2 diabetes, heart disease. Early age of menarche also is a risk factor for breast cancer. Young girls with early puberty are also at risk for early sexual activity, potential sexual abuse, and a variety of behavioral disorders during adolescence.

 

Well, maybe for now I will try not to be alarmist and just focus on getting my little girl to sleep through the night.

    

Mark Leyner:

Billy recently broached this whole subject of precocious menstruation and the early onset of puberty and I’ve been thinking about it ever since. There is this pang you feel… this notion of lost innocence. 

 

Most of us think of childhood as something precious and idealized. We talk about childhood as something that can be “stolen” from us. Many of us ardently long for this time of our lives as a kind of ancestral homeland – pastoral, idyllic. Some of us might even be guilty of the Disneyfication of our own childhoods. The sublime consciousness of childhood can be a powerful force to the increasingly sclerotic consciousness of adulthood.

 

Although our culture promotes sexual awakening as a kind of “liberation,” seen in another light, being sexual can be a restrictive and regimented way to live, especially compared to one’s life as a child. In a sense, one’s burgeoning sexuality is really like being “on drugs.” In puberty we marinate in our hormones – all those estrogens and androgens. We become more similar in the ways we behave and in the ways we view the world. 

 

A friend, a single woman in her mid-40s made me realize how much more expansive the consciousness of a pre-sexual person might be. She is absolutely fixated with finding a boyfriend and completely appraises her happiness based on whether or not she is in a relationship. She is oblivious to the infinite splendors of the world because – like many adults – she cleaves to the sad paradigm of shopping and relentlessly striving to enhance her appearance so that she’ll be more attractive when she’s out foraging for potential mates.

 

When does this dismal state of affairs kick in? Puberty! The incipiently sexualized adolescent is the capitalist’s dream come true. What can’t be sold to a teenager? He or she is the world’s most vulnerable consumer.

 

In a culture as perverse as ours, sexual awakening is polluted by the pornography of merchandising and celebrity culture, a pornography that literally drives people crazy by producing all sorts of unsatisfiable desires and thwarts those very desires with pervasive images of unattainable bodies and luxuries. The result can be self-loathing and obsessive shopping.

 

So this phenomenon of precocious menstruation, for me, conjures up immediately all sorts of paranoid fantasies of corporate conspiracy. THEY are putting SOMETHING in the water. Perhaps it’s the phthalate esters. Or more likely, it’s our culture’s campaign to colonize and establish new markets in the psyches of our children that’s causing this dispiriting phenomenon of early-onset puberty.

 

Weigh in, parents: Are you concerned about precocious puberty in your precious daughters?

 

Comments

YES, MARK; "THEY" ARE PUTTING "SOMETHING" INTO THE DRINKING WATER...!
AND YES, IT IS CAUSING EARLY-ONSET PUBERTY; PERHAPS,IT IS CAUSING YOUR SELF DESCRIBED PARANOID FANTASIES!!
I AM REALLY GLAD THAT I READ THIS ARTICLE; NOW I KNOW WHY ALL MY GOD DAMN NEIGHBORS ARE CRAZIER THAN "PET COONS" - IT IS THE FRIGGIN' DRINKING WATER!!! HA
I am a 55 yr old female that experienced the onset of menstruation at 9 yrs old. It happens to run early in my family (my daughter was 10, my granddaughter was 9). I am here to tell you, this was NOT the onset on my "sexual awakening", nor was it my daughter's or granddaughter's. This is NOT innocence "lost" either. It is a NORMAL bodily function. When it is treated as "sexual awakening" and "innocence lost" it most decidely becomes that. From what I have observed, when the FATHER or FATHER FIGURE in the family begins to treat the daughter differently because of the onset on menstruation, THAT is when it becomes one of the two other issues. The best thing that can happen to a little girl who experiences the onset of menstruation at an early age is a mother that still treats her daughter as the little girl she still is and not a rival, and a father that still loves his little girl unconditionally as the little girl she is and not be uncomfortable with her maturing body. Lucky for me I had both!
I am very concerned about this topic.  I think we as a society are just beginning to understand and learn about what chemicals and plastics are doing to our generation.  Lead in lipsticks, poisons in the plastic for baby bottles...and now this.   Go figure!
As the mother of two daughters, ages 7 and 10, it DOES concern me.  My 10-year-old has already had symptoms of puberty for several years now.  We too, took her to the doctor last year for what appeared to be a period (?)  I was floored to hear it could be happening at this early of an age.  She has loved dairy products since she started eating table foods and consumes a lot of them.  I considered the abundance of hormones in the foods she eats to be a factor.  My concern is that when it happens to a child this age, they aren't able to deal with it emotionally.  There are no receptacles in the girls bathroom stalls - often there are no doors!  How is a child supposed to approach this without shame and embarassment?  
The average at menarche has been around 12.6 years for females in the US for many years.  This is a not a new phenomenon.  There is always significant variation around the average for any human biological variable.  In 1963, my 8 year old friend Connie (who was the tallest girl in 3rd grade, and plump) got her period and began wearing a bra.  There have always been 8 year olds who menstruated.  Connie was not, however, 'sexualized' in any way by this early onset of puberty.  What has changed in the last few decades is the sexualization of young girls through the media, clothing, toys, etc., whether or not they are going through puberty biologically.  My favorite example is the Miss Bimbo Game at http://www.missbimbo.com/.  Britney Spears, Miley Cyrus, etc.  It isn't the hormones in the plastic causing early puberty, as indeed there isn't 'early puberty' -- merely, and sadly, early sexualization of girls of all ages.
I have twin daughters that started going through puberty while in the last part of kindergarten. I started noticing body odor and hairs growing under there arms, and sparse pubic hair soon followed. It was alarming to imagine these little girls who I still gave baths to and were playing with dolls having to go through the nightmare of sanitary pads and the embarrassment of starting your period in school. I took them to an endocrinologist who suggested monthly deep muscle injections of a hormone that would delay the start of their menstration. Not only would that be painful, the shots were $200 a pop and wouldn't be covered by insurance. So we decided for nature to take it's course and surprisingly the girls didn't start their periods until they were nine years old. But it was very strange to have shave under your first graders pits and buy deoderant for them. They are both in college now and healthy and happy!
My little girl is only 6 right now, but ever since she was old enough to smile, she's been flirting with boys... usually boys a few years older than her. The idea of early puberty scares me to death, but one way I have found to cool down her behavior is by having "the talk" with her. Once she had some notion of where babies come from, how they get out of their mother, and even what causes a woman to become pregnant, I have seen a dramatic decrease in her interest in boys. She now looks forward to someday becoming a "step-mother" instead of a mommy.
I believe this phenomenon started years ago.  Agriculture wanting to grow products bigger, faster, and higher producing. Growth hormones in the beef, pork, poultry, and fish markets.  A desire to increase dairy production through the use of chemical stimulants, and all of this going into the food supply and affecting all that ingest it.  I can remember when 12 to 14 year old girls were cute and innocent with their dolls and tea sets.  Those same little girls have turned physically into mature women with all the curves and hormones to match.  Now it is shopping for fashion and makeup and wanting to look like the stars on T.V. and the big screen.  What have we done to the innocence of youth?  
Kudos to you both for touching a subject that I've never heard broached publically before. I began menstruation when I was 10 years old (and am now 25), and I had the benefits of two wonderful parents and a great educational system. My school approached us with the topic in 5th grade with ease, honesty, and openness, but I was still shocked, overwhelmed and unprepared for the changes it brought both physically and emotionally. I have always considered my childhood having ended at nine years old, and while in high school I repeatedly noticed the vast differences (again both physically and emotionally) between myself and the girls who matured later in high school. It never turned me into a boyfriend-desperate shopping-crazed lunatic, but it always saddened me how fast I felt I was "forced" to grow up against my will. It took me years to realize the depression, confusion, and anger (not to mention hips and breasts) I suddenly acquired at ten years old after an easy, happy childhood could all be blamed on one thing: raging hormones! Thanks again for helping me to remember that I'm not the only one.

Nice article Dr. Surprisingly candid for a physician.

Regarding phthalate esthers and the like -
One word: bioaccumulation.
(From the doctor's link: http://www.phthalates.org/yourhealth/bioaccumulation.asp

It doesn't just sit around in the environment forever. It sits in us, in our fat cells. (Since
we and the environment are intimately interconnected, obviously.) These chemicals have been multiplying exponentially in our lives in the 1900s.  And don't break down fast.  Not in mom, not in child, etc.  It is a big issue, IMO.

Regarding phthalate esthers and the like -
One word: bio-accumulation (exponential accumulation of waste in the biosphere - aka environment).

From the doctor's link, see: http://www.phthalates.org/yourhealth/bioaccumulation.asp

These chemicals have been multiplying exponentially in our lives in the 1900s.
And don't break down fast. So bio-accumulation happens - in mom, in child - boy or girl, and in dad (gynecomastia, anyone?) etc.
Boys becoming more & more feminized and obese is not by chance, IMO.

It is all a big issue, throwing off the hormonal balances in nature that were once normal.
The ecosystem can only handle the dumping of so much waste before it starts to look like a sewage dump.
And we are living in that now.  Thanks to phthalate esters and many other chemicals & quasi-plastics.

Why? B/c we've not found effective ways to *fully* eliminate/breakdown the wastes. It is the ecosystem's way is to be fully
recyclable.  From earth to dust and all that jazz.
But people haven't figured out how to recycle all the garbage they put into nature....*yet*.
(Dumping in the ocean or in landfills don't count.)

So, it is inevitable then that our bodies, our kids, and the ecosystem will pay the price.
All IMO.

My daughter just came to me this week to tell me she is starting her period.  She is nine years old.  I get excited with her so she is not freaked out, but I am a little freaked out.  She's my baby girl!  I can't believe how fast she has grown and how quickly it takes just for one day to come when she suddenly begins her journey to becomming a young woman.  It's almost overwhelming.  I wonder if it has anything to do with hormones in our food and water bringing it on so early.  I didn't start until I was 11.
I have two daughters one is 11 and one is 5, and so far I am lucky, (no menses yet)!!!! My 11 year old wants absolutely nothing to do with puberty. Me either for that matter. But we talk about it and I make her aware that this is going to happen. I feel confident that even though this is a fact of life, that she and I can keep the innocence of childhood in check.
Yes, I am very concerned about precocious puberty. I have a 9 yr. old daughter who will be turn 10 in July. I look at her developing body and I feel a sense of sadness and lost. As a mother it is my desire to see her grow and develop into a lovely young woman, however it seems to be happening too fast these days. She and I are reading a book called "The Period Book". It's agreat book in that it explains in relatively easy language the changes in a young girl's body. A lot of her friends that are 10 yrs old have already gotten thier period. I know that her time isn't far off, I'm just hoping that we have at least another year.

Virginia Mom
As a middle scool teacher for 18 years it has always kind of shocked me that girls are starting their cycles so early. We teach the cycle in seventh grade, and these days it is the norm that all the girls are menstruating, it used to be a much smaller percentage.
I currently have a son (by the way, he is 5'10 and 168lbs and has always been a larger child) who is turning 13 next week.  At age 7, I noticed extreme body odor after a soccer game.  Here I'm thinking it had to be something like an adrenaline/stress response.  Then, to my astonishment, body hair becomes apparent at 9.  Even boys hit puberty early, not just girls, so confirmed by his pediatrician.  The subsequent emotions and fluctuations in hormones for these youngsters is doubly difficult to deal with, as they just don't have the ability to understand some of it.  They also struggle with the idea that they are somehow "weird" or "different" because of this earlier physical growth.  Explaining to the kids that it is normal for some to start sooner rather than later is so critical and to support them towards a positive body image.  Only recently, that I'm aware of, are we talking about disposal of medications (including hormones) that is appropriate and so that they can be extracted from our water supply.  We've known about growth hormones being used in cows and being present in the milk we drink.  I do think it is bigger than that, and these fellows certainly touched on that with the phthalate esters.
How about my precious Granddaughter? At age 10 she started to develop breasts.  She will soon be 11 but I think menarche is close.  She iuts just not mentally developed at this age to cope with all puberty entails.  She is not mentally mature enough to make life changing decisions. She does not want to do what her sister does at 13.  I am very concerned about her.

A loving Grandmother.
I find it interesting to read this article and the comments.  Parents try to keep their kids from growing up, culture has evolved to where its more common to wait until your 30 to get married and we cram education and jobs down everyones throat in between.  It's no wonder we have a 50%+ divorce rate and the countless diagnosis of ADHD, ADD, Bipolar, on and on and on.
America needs to get back to some basics.  We need to learn to embrace life as it is rather than how we've been taught to dream it to be.  It's true, many of us seem to be living a disneyland world, especially with how we look back at our childhoods and how we try to raise our own children-that is when we finally get around to having kids in our late 30s now days.
Growing up, while no doubt seemingly awkward, really does not have to be if you will keep up with life rather than trying to play God with how you deal with these issues.  Boys and girls want to grow up.  Teach them to!  Puberty can be a very self esteem building time if you'll embrace it and encourage your child to embrace this new stage in life-rather than hold them back as though its embarrassing.  
God created our bodies and how they work.  Go against how they function and you go against His plan.  Life is wonderful if you'll live it and embrace the wonderful key elements of living.
Hug your son or daughter and tell them how cool it is they are growing up.  And if they are a little ahead, how cool is that-they get a head start on something.  Teach them to be thankful and look forward.
You correctly state that pre-pubertal obesity is linked to early onset of puberty.  It makes sense that these girls are at a higher risk for developing obesity, type 2 diabetes, and heart disease, if they are already obese or overweight.

However, I was disappointed that you do not clearly state that the other environmental factors are very speculative and there are no clear links between these and early puberty in humans.  Your readers would do better to worry about aflatoxins in peanut butter and E.coli in any food products.

As for the over-merchandising, which also is extensive for children, try limiting or eliminating television programs.  I do not have cable television and watch very little broadcast TV.
The over sexualization of children who experience early maturation also affects the leives of children who do not, particularly in middle school.  Early maturation tends to be a "desirable characteristic" and other children who have not matured sometimes have to pretend to have matured or experience "social detriment".  There is no hiding for boys -- you either have the attributes of a hormone enhanced body or you do not.
Regardless of what age our daughters start their periods, one thing we can do is help them transition into this new reality with ease and comfort.  When my daughter first started her periods, I saw a need for a product that could bring such an ease and comfort.  Today, I am proud to say that product is now available online at www.PantEve.com.  



I would be glad to send out a sample of the PantEve so the young girls in your family or even the older ones can try and see the much needed, worry-free comfort it offers.
I think it's awfully sad to think such young girls are getting their period so young.  They have a solid what? 9 years of childhood and then they're hit with their monthly period? I first got my period at 11 years old (I'm 27 now). I've always been very thin too. I remember thinking "already? I have to be bothered by this every month?"  I certainly didn't become "boy crazy" either.  I continued to be focused on friends and sports.  I do believe it's the hormones injected in our poultry, dairy, and countless other food products.  Girls are maturing so incredibly fast these days that it's quite sad. I don't think girls are able to enjoy their childhood anymore.  
I too started my period early... 10.  Very relieved my mother did not take me to the ER but she did experience a few moments of denial (grilling me as to whether I'd fallen or possibly banged myself on my bike).  When she realized this was really happening she immediately got over herself and sprung into action for my benefit. Making sure I understood the full gravity of what this new change to my body meant and explaining how I should now take care of myself.  At the same time though, she made sure I understood this did not mean I had to immediately throw away my childhood (one of my concerns was that I would not be able to do a cartwheel or swing on the handle bars on the play ground).  I think my mother addressing that yes I was a child with a developing woman's body, ultimately I was still a child.  I think that aided in me retaining my innocense.
Very interesting to hear from the other end of the spectrum. In contrast, I was one of the late bloomers, and didn't get my first period (or much of anything else!) until after I was 15. I got much grief from my peers and sibling about how undeveloped and 'behind' I was compared to them. I recall how each of us in my fifth grade class longed to be one of the lucky ones who needed a bra, etc. because somehow that accorded them a more grown-up status. They were treated as the more mature ones by the adults, and that carried on to how the other kids saw them. Monkey see, monkey do. It was made clear by those who physically matured faster that those of us that hadn't caught up or didn't have the same attributes were not only behind physically, but must also be less mentally mature(gotta love the convoluted logic of childhood). Frankly, it is rather nice to know that some of them weren't enjoying it as much as they appeared to at the time...
As far as I am concerned Jane Duncan of Lexington, MI said it best!!  I could not agree more with her.  My daughter is 10 and she started two weeks ago.  Was she upset?  You BETCHA but that is when us as parents have to step up to the plate and put our parenting skills to the test!  Those are STILL your little girls and it is a NORMAL body function. Keep her close and have "the talk" and keep on talking and playing and treating her like the girl she is and at this age guess what?  They are still talking a million miles an hour to you AND they are HEARING EVERY WORD YOU SAY so choose your words carefully and leave your daughter with a healthy sense of what has just happened to her and this will be the beginning of her growing into a strong young woman.  They are still our little girls and WE are still their number ONE role model so use the time wisely!!!  Peace to all!  
Age of menarche and peak growth has been tied to childhood diet.  Increased calories, as well as higher amounts of animal protein and fat are correlated with earlier onset of menarche and peak growth velocity.

Berkey, Gardner, Frazier, & Colditz (2000) Relation of Childhood Diet and Body Size to Menarche and Adolescent Growth in Girls, American Journal of Epidemiology, Vol 152, No. 5, 446-452.

Quoting from the abstract:
"Girls who consumed more (energy-adjusted) animal protein and less vegetable protein at ages 3–5 years had earlier menarche, and girls aged 1–2 years with higher dietary fat intakes and girls aged 6–8 years with higher animal protein intakes became adolescents with earlier peak growth. Controlling for body size, girls who consumed more calories and animal protein 2 years before peak growth had higher peak growth velocity."
Why is everyone so concerned with the "embarrassment" of starting one's period?  Changing your pad in a public restroom isn't any more embarrassing than urinating - it's a natural bodily function, and almost every woman has to deal with it eventually.  If you tell kids that their periods are dirty and embarrassing, sure they'll be traumatized!  Just treat it like a normal thing and maybe their periods won't be "horrifying" or a "loss of innocence".
The average age of menarche (start of menstruation) in 1900 was near 19 years-of-age.  By that age, most women were mentally and emotionally prepared to bear children.   Today, menarche is starting much younger.  This, along with a culture that promotes dating and such at younger ages has lead to very young girls becoming pregnant.  In the mid 80's, while practicing medicine, I was shocked to see 8 and 9 year old children in the obstetrics clinics pregnant and not mentally or emotionally able to handle giving birth.  Babies having babies is a sad result.
I've always wondered what effect sports have in delaying a young girl's period. My daughter was involved in gymnastics since she was 3 but never to the extent where it took over her life. She did eventually go 4 days a week, loved the sport, but did not starve herself or get overly stressed out. She finally got her period a week before her 16th birthday. She also never seemed overly concerned that her friends got their periods before she did. But I also think I may have been a bit late, too.
I had a friend who developed earlier than the rest of us, she had breasts by 4th grade, and she definately had a confused self image that left her vulnerable to sexual abuse.  The boys definately noticed that she had breasts when the rest of us didn't and by the time we were in 7th grade she was sexually active.  I however, didn't have my first period until I was 14, and I really believed it made a huge difference in our outlooks on life.  I'm 31 now, and it wasn't "common" in my peergroup to have your period before 12...it happened to a few girls who were not the norm!
About 13 years ago I read "Reviving Ophelia" by Mary Pipher, PhD.  The subject of early puberty was mentioned in the book, which I believe was first published in the late 80's.  Even then, the author's suggested early pubescence might be caused by hormone additives in the food supply.  It was extremely enlightening, even in the years before the push for natural and organic foods and awareness of what is really in the products (non-food based) we buy!  My daughters, now 16 and 11, both started showing signs of puberty by age 8.  It was startling to see and I wondered if it had anything to do with Dr. Pipher's theories.  I did not mourn the "loss" of my daughter's youth, but welcomed another opportunity to share and parent my child as a growing young woman.  
I am a 27 year old woman and I had my first period shortly after I turned 9. To me it was an innocence lost. It wasn't the fact that I was "growing up" that was tramatizing to me, it was the fact that I had no idea what was happening to me. My mother, not knowing that I would start my period at 9, never talked to me about the birds and the bees, puberty, etc. Even after I got my period she explained what it was, but never did give me the full "talk". I had to find out on my own what exactly this meant and it was very life altering for me. I lived on the coast and it was hard when I was at the beach with all of my friends and couldn't go into the water with them, and was too embarrassed to even tell them why. Not that they would even understand, because they knew nothing about puberty either.

I have to say, though, that getting my period at a young age did not make me sexually active at a younger age. Yes, it did make me more curious as to what sex was all about and what it involved, but it did not make me rush out and do it.
My daughter began to develop pubic hair at a very young age (about 6-7) and we were concerned.  However she is now 13 and has very little breast development and has not started menstration yet.  I know it will be soon but now I am a bit more relaxed because I believe she is mature enough to handle it.  
I am the mother of a 12 year old mentally retarded daughter.  She has had pubic hair since the age of 4 and started menstruating at age 9.  She's been wearing deoderant since the age of 6 with hair under her arms.  My challenge was explaining her period to her because while she has the body of a 16 year old at this time, mentally, she's only 5 years old.
My daughter and I had the talk about periods as I notice she was developing fast for her age and sure enough by age 9 "it happen". The biggest problem so far is the privacy issue at school, there is no way for her to dispose of them in the bathroom so that know one will know. She is so afraid that someone at school will find out. I believe it is something in the food that we eat that is causing this. I'm 45 and most of my friends and me included, did not start until after 14 years of age. Something has changed, I just thought know one else had noticed or was concerned...
I am 35 and started my menstral cycle when I was 9 years old.  I now have to see an endocrinologist because of a thyroid problem that just won't regulate after nearly 8 years. I wonder if this has anything to to with it.  I was also under a lot of stress when I was 9.  Maybe that was the cause.
Everyone is entitled to his or her opinion, however:
1.  Research shows that while the onset of puberty has begun earlier, it also plateaued and is no longer showing this trend.
2.  Stress is a large factor when discussing the early onset of puberty.  
3.  Some of you do not seem to have a historical perspective that spans further than this past century, Many young women, once they were able to bare children, which, contrary to popular belief is often not until a couple of years after their first period, were then required to marry and begin having children of their own.  Your tweens have their entire teenage years, and probably early twenties as well, to work through any parental induced drama and/or distress that you are putting them through by viewing your children's normal development as something dirty, sexual or something to mourn.
4.  It takes a truly depraved mind to equate a young lady having their period to losing their 'innocence.'
5.  It is sad that we live in a society that views the natural progression of life, including sex, as dirty or scary.  Hopefully your children will have the sense, self-efficacy and autonomy to set some of you straight on this issue and assure you that it is perfectly healthy to grow and mature as all people, since the beginning of time, have done.  Life is something to be celebrated, not feared.
7.  Signs of puberty does not equal ‘symptoms.’  Puberty is not a disease; it is natural, positive, and, most importantly, necessary.    
8.  Just because someone is an M.D., does not mean they know anything about development.  I would not go and try to tell an ER doctor how to treat a gunshot wound, and, likewise, I do not appreciate them misinforming or skewing the publics’ perception when it comes to my field.  
9.  The only story here that is anything close to ‘out-of-the ordinary’ is the kindergarten story; that is earlier than expected (there are always outliers), but, as the parent stated, they are fine and your children will be too unless you do something to mess them up.  

I myself didn't start until I was 14-15 yrs old but both of my sisters and my neices started around 9-10 yrs old.  It does make a difference when you do reach that milestone earlier rather than later, but the thing to remember is that no matter at what age it is a natural part of growing up, whether you want it or not.  
All of you people that think hormones in meats are causing problems need to do some research.  I am a graduate student of animal science working on a Master of Agriculture.  Unless you eat meat raw you have nothing to worry about.  These growth hormones (proteins) that are in the meat denature in the cooking process so they are rendered inactive.  Don't believe everything you hear in the media.
My daughter is 14 yo now and first got her period at the end of 3rd grade - yep 9 years old.  she was thin, active and healthy.we eat an almost entirely organic diet and use the "green" cleaning products.  Also, we don't consume dairy products.  

As to a "loss" of innocence - where did you get that?  It sounds like that stems more from a father's fears and loss than that of the girl.
Heck, my dad didn't realize I'd really hit puberty until I was seventeen and he suddenly realized I had hips.

I was a late-bloomer, and never understood early-onset. My mom was a late-bloomer too, both of us "coming of age" at 14. I didn't really discover boys until around the same age, so I didn't think to separate the two events. However, socially speaking, I think we DO fill the heads of little ones with the trappings of our own adult worlds, and "dress up" has become a dangerous game. I don't feel like I lost any innocence, although I could have used a little more feminization due to my total lack of regard for female fashion. I grew up with my brothers giant-sized t-shirt hand-me-downs. It took me until after college to really recognize and celebrate my body.

So there you have an opposite effect for comparison. It weirds me out to think of 8-year-olds hitting the Age. When I was 8 the biggest thing on my mind was how long 'till summer vacation. Biologically I don't even get it... how could an 8-year-old's body even HAVE a child?

Fathers, teach your daughters how to fix cars and dig post-holes. Moms, teach your girls to cook and clean. And BOTH of you, put your feet down and say NO every once in a while. They may scream and cry, but I swear, it's actually GOOD for the developing psyche!
I'm not worried about my 5 year old daughter starting her period anytime soon. I was a late bloomer, baby teeth in 9th grade and didn't start menstruating until I was 16. But I remember the kids in 4th and 5th grades starting their periods. I remember being terrified. But by the time mine came, it was like, FINALLY!!! But I also only buy organic milk for my daughter, because I'm worried about all the hormones that can be found in non-organic milk. I think that probably has alot to do with it. But then again, maybe these kids are just early bloomers.
My daughter began showing signs of precocious puberty before her 5-year-old well check-up. Our doctor suggested that hormones in dairy and meat could be the cause and that switching to organics (and no longer drinking soy milk, either) would help. She said it wouldn't reverse what had already happened (body odor, hair growth) but it could prevent progression. We switched, and it has stopped. Now if only school lunch programs could jump on board the organic food idea...
Hormones are not only in the water, they are also in the milk.  Bovine Growth Hormone BHT is given to cows in order to make them give more milk.  The diary industry fought leglislation to require that this hormone be on the label.  You can find BHT free milk but you have to look for it.  Organic milk does not contain it.  Since humans and cows share much dna, it is likely that BHT will have some kind of affect on humans. Many countries do not allow BHT to be used, the US has no such restrictions.
I, too, have twin daughters who started showing signs of puberty in kindergarten, including underarm hair, pubic hair and adult body odor.  We also sought an endocrinolgist's opinion - his diagnosis that that they were NOT experiencing precocious puberty. Since neither my mother or sisters or myself had early onset, I can't help but consider environmental factors such as what they are ingesting (water source, milk products, meat products) and the additives in these products. Why? Because they are following the pattern of their 12-year-old brother who also experienced early onset of puberty (age 7-8), but was also told by an endocrinologist that he did not have precocious puberty.

They will still develop into the wonderful adults they are meant to be, although I lament that their childhood has been prematurely interrupted. We take care not to make too much of it around them and stand prepared to weather the "hormonal storm" sooner rather than later.
There is some research in the area of water fluoridation and fluoride exposure, that effects the pineal gland, which is speculated to be one of the contributing factors toward the early onset of puberty. The research paper is named "Fluoride Deposition in the Aged Human Pineal Gland", I forgot the author's name. Fluoride is one of those chemicals that work on an accumulating basis in the human body. It casues all kinds of disease and dysfunction in the human body and we are just now discovering how horrible it's effects are. Hopefully, the government will ban this substance as they did lead in paints and fuels, PCB's, DDT, and a host of other chemicals used within our environment.
This was no shock to me. I had my first period in 5th grade.That was back in 1980. I also had my visit from the breast fairy in third grade. Yes I did mature quickly, but now 30 years later to hear of others starting their periods as early as i did makes me seem more normal.
I had precocious puberty as a child and I recall it being a total horror. I was only five and my parents took me to a doctor who referred me to Children's Hospital in Los Angeles. For years, I was subject to invasive physical exams by what I now know were student doctors using me to further their educations and careers, exams that often sent me into hysterics. I still have post-traumatic stress from the experience, so much so that for years, I had to self-medicate with drugs and alcohol prior to any female exam, even when I became pregnant with my children.

Additionally, the attitude of my parents gave me no support whatsoever and as a result, I was left to my own emotional devices when I began menstruating at the age of ten. I had to fight off repeated attempts at sexual molestation by not only adult men, but by male peers as well. In retrospect, I know that I did not begin to pull my psyche together until I was well into my thirties and it is only now that I am approaching my fifties that I finally feel at ease with my own body.

Thank GOD for menopause!
To quote Dr. Billy Goldberg, "Pre-pubertal obesity has been shown to lower the age of menarche...Girls with premature puberty are at a higher risk for developing obesity." It seems to me that obesity is either a cause or a possible risk of early menarche. It is hard for me to believe that it can be both. More likely than not, it is a cause. Consider the increasing number of overweight and obese Americans. Maybe we should be looking at ourselves before we start looking at external causes for this phenomena.  
This is indeed not a new phenomenon.  If you go back three or four hundred years, the average age of puberty was 14 to 16. For example, in the late 17th century church choirs, boy sopranos could usually continue their careers until their mid teens.  One factor not mentioned in the article is improved nutrition.  Of course in more recent years, that has been deteriorating to a high fat diet.
I want to thank the writers and the commentors.  I think I learned something from all of you.  I agree that it is not puberty itself that takes away inocence but our sexualization of puberty.  There is blame to be placed in a lot of places for this sexualization, including the television programs that are supposed to be for children and the handling of these kid actors in mainstream media.  In this time of work, rush, hurry, with everyday filled with some activity, we do not seem to have as much time with our kids just doing kids stuff while they are little as we want or need.  With puberty seeming to rush in, we start to realize how little time we have left for an unwarranted hug or when our kisses really do make the hurts feel better.  We all need to find a way to stay close to our children.

My DD is 7.5 and my DS is 9.  Neither is overweight in any since of the word.  About six months ago my DD started having underarm odor but not my son.  My DH thought it was strange but suggested that I buy them both plain deodorant. I have to remind DD to use deodorant sometimes but she is okay about it. Then she started complaining about her chest hurting a few months ago.  DH was sort of shocked but sort of not.  DD has a friend who is 6 months older and much heavier and we noticed she had started developing last year.  We now have to have DD wear a tank all the time because she has buds.  After reading some of the comments here, I know that I want to make this time just normal for her.  She is not doing anything different than anyone else at some point in their life.  DD still loves Spongebob Squarepants and her dolls.  Hopefully, her innocence will never be lost becuase of nature.


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