Hats off to dubious and delusional diseases

Posted on Thursday, January 24, 2008 8:00 AM PT

By Dr. Billy Goldberg and Mark Leyner

Dr. Billy Goldberg: Well, here it goes…Our Body Odd podcast is becoming a blog, and now we apparently have to write something logical and organized rather than just rambling on incessantly from one topic to another. Or do we? This is the blogosphere isn’t it? Which always reminds me of that eco-experiment in the Arizona desert or worse the 1996 Pauly Shore movie, "Bio-Dome." Anyway, Leyner and I hope to maintain the same back and forth, free-wheeling, question and answer, educational and entertaining banter that we (and hopefully you, too) enjoy.

Today we’ll try to shed some light on a variety of syndromes with vague, subjective symptoms and how physicians sometimes view them as “dubious diseases.” Don’t expect a clear answer.


Last week, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention decided to invest $338,000 to determine the truth behind Morgellons, a bizarre skin condition where patients believe that they are infested with bugs. Dermatologists believe it is in their minds. I have never seen a patient who claimed to have this condition, but I have dealt with patients who come in with a long list of ambiguous ailments that include chronic fatigue, restless leg, irritable bowel and fibromyalgia.

Last year, the Food and Drug Administration approved the drug pregabalin (marketed by Pfizer as Lyrica) for fibromyalgia, a condition that primarily affects women and is characterized by muscle pain and fatigue. A fibromyalgia diagnosis is based on clinical symptoms alone. There are no tests to prove whether it exists or not and nobody knows the cause. Some doctors doubt its existence. All I know is that medicine is often imperfect.

There is so much we don’t know and I never hesitate to admit that physicians don’t even come close to having all the answers. I try to take my patient’s complaints seriously, even when my instinct tells me that the symptoms are more emotional than physical. How can you ever truly know? I do worry sometimes that there is a danger to labeling these conditions. It reminds me of a quote that I came across in medical school:

"For each illness that doctors cure with medicine, they provoke ten in healthy people by inoculating them with the virus that is a thousand times more powerful than any microbe: the idea that one is ill."
--Marcel Proust

Mark Leyner: It seems to me that the pharmaceutical industry and the FDA have become the arbiters of what is and isn’t a “real” disease (“real” being a profoundly dubious concept unto itself). Now that there’s a drug being marketed to treat fibromyalgia, it went from being a “dubious disease” to a bona fide “clinical syndrome,” albeit an idiopathic one (i.e. with no known causes). To some degree, until there’s a drug to treat it, a disease is not officially recognized.  It’s marginalized, ghettoized and generally disparaged and ridiculed as “dubious.”

All of this appears to be much more economically and culturally determined than purely scientific. We really have to pay close attention to the economic etiology of disease – the pharmaceutical chicken-and-egg syndrome.

First comes the drug, then the efflorescing “indications,” and then the new official diseases and syndromes. The mere act of giving something a name seems to confer legitimacy. But one of the hallmarks of a “dubious disease” is many names. Fibromyalgia was known by whole host of other names: including fibrositis; chronic muscle pain syndrome; psychogenic rheumatism; and tension myalgias.

Of course, the technical chime of an acronym confers a powerful form of official status. There’s ADD (attention deficit disorder), OCD (obsessive-compulsive disorder), SAD (social anxiety disorder and seasonal affective disorder), CFS (chronic fatigue syndrome), ME (myalgic encephalomyelitis), ITFS (itchy trigger finger syndrome), WWMD (wicked witch melting disorder), etc.

Take RLS (restless leg syndrome), for example. RLS is a nice, officially recognized, albeit idiopathic syndrome. It’s got two nice official drugs, Ropinirole (marketed as Requip) and Pramipexole (marketed as Mirapex and Sifrol) – both dopamine-agonists used to treat Parkinson’s disease – that now have FDA-approved indications to treat it. And, best of all, RLS (like all acronymic diseases and syndromes) make perfect mitigating defense arguments. “Ladies and gentlemen, I ask you, how restless do a person’s legs have to get before he just snaps and lashes out at the person lying next to him?”

So, yeah, the CDC is now paying Kaiser Permanente to investigate this absolutely fascinating condition called Morgellons, which involves the sensation of insects crawling all over you and erupting sores from which sprout multi-colored fibers! Most doctors seem to think this is all some bizarre shared delusional parasitosis (a psychosis in which people believe they’re infected with parasites). If it is indeed a shared delusion, all the better, I say.

It’s generally considered to be vulgar and “kooky” to invent your own disease. But I’ve always thought that it’s a fantastic form of self-invention and self-definition. If we can be “well” in multifarious ways, we should be able to be “sick” in multifarious ways. Those designations shouldn’t be the exclusive prerogative of some doctor or the FDA. Just because it doesn’t have a DRG-code (a health insurance diagnosis code) doesn’t mean you can’t claim to have it. In fact, the more dubious and delusional an illness is, the more appeal it has for me. I’m a fanatical proponent of the UFO-ization of medicine.

How about those UFO-sightings in Stephenville, Texas? Several dozen people saw the thing, including a pilot and a county constable. A county constable! Is there a more credible paragon of sobriety and probity in this god-forsaken world than a county constable? If a county constable said he had sores all over his body with red, white and black threads spouting out of them, you’d believe him, right? But if some New Jersey housewife in curlers, puffing on a Marlboro Light, says the same thing, well, she’s suffering from “delusional parasitosis.” It’s so obviously unfair.

Creating pathological identities for ourselves is an august and complex endeavor. Disease distinguishes us from the herd. It makes us unique. In this demeaning, tabloid-consuming, star-crazed world, it can be our weapon against terminal anonymity. It can make celebrities of us all and, conversely, afford solidarity with our afflicted brethren. Someday, pathology will replace ideology and ethnicity, and candidates will have to pander to fibromyalgia sufferers and social phobics, instead of Hispanics and social conservatives.

So, hats off to all dubious, delusional and purely psychosomatic diseases.

You know the joke, right? A guy goes to doctor complaining of a whole host of symptoms that’s he’s been suffering from for months.  The doctor examines him and says, “Listen, I can’t find anything wrong with you. You just think you’re sick.”  The guy goes home. A few weeks later, he’s back at the doctor’s office. “I feel terrible,” he says. “All my symptoms are getting much worse.” The doctor gives him another thorough exam and shakes his head.  “You’re absolutely fine. You just think you’re getting worse.” About two months later, the patient’s brother is walking down the street and he runs into the doctor. “How’s your brother doing,” the physician asks. The brother looks at the doctor and replies: “He thinks he’s dead.”

Comments

Way to go, docs. You’ve done a great job of making the people who suffer from fibromyalgia feel even more hopeless. If that’s what you wanted to do as a doctor, why did you bother to waste all that time in med school? The last thing fibromyalgia sufferers need is one more doctor to say they doubt it’s a disease. I wish you had to spend 24 hrs a day in pain with no effective relief for years, then go to a doctor and have them tell you there’s no such thing as fibromyalgia. Do you have any idea how it feels that the entire medical community doesn’t believe you? Most doctors today don’t even know a disease from their own arse. They only want to put you into a category and give you a pill and get you out of their office. My wife has even been told, “The doctor doesn’t want to see you today.” Did you know that it used to be the credo of doctors to “do no harm”.  Well, attitudes like yours do PLENTY of harm. I wish you knew how many hours my wife has spent crying like a baby because she can’t get ANYBODY in the medical community to pay attention to her pain and suffering. Because my wife is in constant pain, it affects every part of her life. She can’t sleep at night because she’s in pain. She can’t sit in a chair or drive anywhere more than 10 minutes away. She can’t go to the movies or see a play because she’s in pain. Yet here you come saying that she was provoked with the IDEA that she is ill. I think you should have your medical license taken away and not be allowed to write a blog if you’re going to make ignorant statements like that. Whatever happened to doctors that actually want to help people? Obviously you don’t.
It is amazing how *not funny* mocking people's pain is.
re: Hats off to dubious and delusional diseases

Mr. Leyner,
I read your commentary several times and it appears that you are including Restless Legs Syndrome in the category of what you refer to as "...dubious, delusional, and purely psychosomatic diseases." Perhaps before you so flippantly include any condition in that list, you should better educate yourself about the disease/condition and then talk with a few individuals who are personally dealing with the condition.  I have had RLS syndrome since I was in high school, although no one was talking about the syndrome at the time.  Now, in my 40s, RLS is so severe that I cannot sit or lay down due to the difficult to describe, yet nonetheless very symptoms.  I take medication 3x a day to make my life livable.  I really wish you were right.  I wish that this condition, which has no specific test to confirm diagnosis, and no symptoms that can be seen, was just in my imagination or that the docs and pharmaceuticals companies had conspired to form a diagnosis in order to profit from drug sales.  I would love to lay down in bed at night and just go to sleep.  I would love to be able to go to the movies, or even sit with my family and watch a movie at home.  RLS makes that impossible for me.  Thankfully, there are medications available to ameliorate the symptoms.  It's the only thing that makes each day tolerable.  So, before you flippantly carelessly include RLS, or any other difficult to define condition, in your list of "dubious, delusional and psychosomtic diseases, please do the public a favor and educate yourself first.
Ever hear of "the matchbox sign"?

I once showed up at a doctor's appointment (for a foot injury).  When the doc came in I started talking about weird little fibers on my skin and  pulled a matchbox from my pocket.  The aghast look on the poor doctor's face was precious.  So relieved was he when I told him that I was joshing, that his open expression of relief embarrassed him.
'Fibromyalgia' is a syndrome, please...educate yourself on what 'syndrome' means.  It does not mean 'disease'.

Every woman I've met who has suffered from 'Fibromyalgia' has been grossly obese and would not lose the weight.   Hmmmmmmmm.....

One of the hardest things to help folks with is a somatic-focused psychiatric illness. They feel bad, they hurt, they experience their symptoms as real, and any question that the symptom may be related to stress, emotions or their psychology is experienced as invalidating.  This doesn't mean that we lie and say it is a biological illness, or fund research for "morgellons" when it's delusional parasitosis.  It doesn't mean we are invalidating their suffering. It just means we have to find better ways of educating them, of validating their suffering while refusing to agree with their confusion.
When I first began to have symptoms which were later diagnosed as fibromyalgia I was going to the Y for exercise nearly every day and walking two to five miles a day.  I felt great, had lots of energy and truly enjoyed the exercise in addition to my job and family.  It began simply enough -- I couldn't do overhead presses anymore or exercises that involved having my arms extended out to the side.  OK, I'll lay off those things until whatever is wrong gets better.  Then it was leg and ankle pain that kept me from walking.  OK, I'll wait until that gets better.  I kept doing what I could but gradually had to eliminate all of it, including my job.  Most fibromyalgia patients are very exercise intolerant.  It takes very little to make the muscles scream in pain.  Where I could do fifty reps of a given exercise before, I can do one now.  If I just think I'm sick, give me a reason to think I'm well and I will be delighted.  
50 reps?!  Sounds like over-use injury WRT you shoulders.  Did you go to a physical therapist?
Not so, FatSean.  Many are grossly underweight but most are in the normal range.  You just haven't met enough yet.
I can't speak for all these symptoms and diseases, but RLS is real.  I never had it as bad as some but it certinally kept me from getting a good nights sleep.  It even woke up my wife when my legs would spasm in the middle of the night.

When I was diagnosed with (apparently unrelated) obstructive sleep apnea and started using a CPAP machine at night, my RLS symptoms disappeared and has not returned.  

I don't know if the relationship between sleep apnea (or other condition that lowers the oxygen level in the body) and RLS has been studied, but it should be.
It's interesting that the research on these so-called diseases and most legitimate diseases is conducted MD's.  Interesting that MD's are graduates of vocational schools (the "Doctor" is a courtesy that has not been earned) and have littleto no training in research.  They depend mostly on "scientists" from drug companies to design and then interpret their findings.  It is little wonder that "restless legs" soon find a "wonder drug" that just happens to be incredibly expensive.  It's time to end the involvement of both drug companies and MD's in the highly profitable "pseudo-science" that prescribes a pill for everything,even when that pill is not significantly better than a plecebo.  Has anyone noted lately that the placebo effet works much better when a great deal of drama is added to the medicinal delivery?  If you burn enough herbs and shake your rattle enough, you can cure a statistically significant number of cancer cases.
Thank God neither one of you is my doctor.  I have suffered with RLS since I was a teenager and I am now 50 yrs old.  I remember when I was young I would have bruises on my legs from hitting them to make them quit feeling like I had to move them.  I wasn't until a few years ago I got up the courage to ask my doctor about my legs.  He immediately understood my description of my legs.  As I grew older it was getting worse, when I finally ask for help I was getting 2-3 hrs a night sleep and was up walking the house the rest of the time.  Also just because there is an approved medicine doesn't mean it works for everyone.  I have had horrible side affect on Requip and Mirapex so I have to rely on an old stand by that only puts me to sleep, it doesn't do anything for my legs.  Try traveling on a plane when your legs decide they need to walk or stretch.  Try going to the theater when you can't sit still. I dare you to go to the www.rls.org website and read some of the discussion items and then decide if these people are imaging their pain and discomfort.
I've been diagosed with CSGAD (Sis' gad)also known as "can't seem to get anything done", which usually strikes at work while reading your blog. Can you prescribe anything for this debilitating condition?
My daughter has fibromyalgia.  She is not overweight; in fact, she is slightly underweight.  She's been suffering for most of her 44 years, but has only in the last year found a doctor who could diagnose her symptoms and give her medication for pain relief.  The rest of the doctors couldn't find anything wrong and told her to take Motrin.  Finally, after suffering with this syndrome for more than 30 years, she's finally got relief - and someone like you comes along and insinuates it's all in her head.  Shame on you.
It is a mistake to dismiss someone's symptoms or go in with preconceptions. I realize that doctors are, in fact, just human, and are therefore also susceptible to making judgements, but perhaps this is something that could be addressed during those many years of medical school! I have had Rheumatoid Arthritis since I was 13 (I am 22 now) and I went undiagnosed for two years because it was "all in my head" or "growing pains" or whatever sounded good enough to get me to stop complaining. I am now facing joint damage that may have been prevented had someone stopped and listened to what I had to say earlier, instead of making a decision before ever walking into a room. While I credit my current doctors with respecting the fact that I know my body and when something is wrong, it took me a long time to find that doctor and I had to fight every step of the way. An open mind is never a bad thing, and it may save someone a lot of suffering down the road.
I find it interesting that I have RLS, and don't treat it with Requip, or Mirapex (I'm actually in the group who suffers worse symptoms because of the drugs.. explain THAT effect if there is no illness).  I was diagnosed before these drugs even came out, and many YEARS before me.  Eckbom identified it decades ago, and it's said some guy even before him may have been the first to note it.

I am being treated with opiates. I take a couple methadone and for roughly 24hrs I do not have nasty uncomfortable sensations that force involuntary (or voluntary depending on how you look at it) movements to bring on relief.

I can't explain to you why when I am moving these feelings mostly go away.  Or why they go away when I get into a bath with epsom salts,  or why when I take low doses of painkillers, they go away.  All I know is Opiates are recognized as one of the most effective treatments for a lot of RLS sufferers.

Gee, I guess I've graduated from psychiatrically induced illness to worthless drug addict who will say anything to get more pills ?  Whatever..  

It's easier to explain stuff away when YOU don't know the answer, as this and many other articles clearly demonstrates.  The medical community will be in for a great awakening the day someone invents something that let's others actually FEEL what all these "fake" illnesses are like.  

People don't want to believe in RLS partly because it is a poorly named syndrome.  It just sounds goofy to the layman, and apparently to a lot of "Doctors".  It makes sense when you move beyond the simple definition of restless and acknowledge it is a technically accurate verbiage, no matter how "goofy" it sounds.


But that's the state of the American skeptic I guess.  When big pharma is involved in something it HAS to be a scheme to make more money.. Corporate bastards!  Maybe I should stop believing  people when they say they have an itch.  I can't see it, I can't diagnostically test for it (that I'm aware of) and get back results that say "yup" this guy has an itch..     Someone says they have an itch and they scratch it... It's gone.  We know itching has to do with removing dead skin cells that cause irritation, as well as a few other things I'm sure ( i can't be assed to look it up, not being a doctor and everything).


Ignorance is no excuse to dismiss stuff, just because it doesn't fit the pre-conceived notion of what an illness is,  be it disease, syndrome, whatever.  History is filled with examples of people who bucked the trend to prove every accepted notion of the time, to be absolutely wrong;  unfortunately for some of us we haven't had enough progress happen yet.

Until then,  I'll keep taking my methadone, safe in the knowledge that it is allowing me to live a normal, undistracted (un-sleep deprived, un-depressed, un-uncomfortable weird sensation) life.
I didn't believe in a lot of these diseases either.  My sister-in-law said she had "chronic fatigue syndrom" and is now on disability.  She was also known to say that she was tired of working (at 30) and felt she'd worked enough in her life and shouldn't have to work anymore.  Laziness is what I attributed it to.

Then I got tired all the time, got nothing done, sat around all day.  I even googled chronic fatigue syndrome and found I fit a lot of symptoms.  But I didn't believe in it, so I ignored it.  

Then one day my heart went nuts, 170 beats per minute and wouldn't stop.  Went to ER and lots of bloodwork showed I had Graves disease, one symptom which is fatigue and "laziness".  Perhaps if I wasn't so against all these diseases I might have gone to the doctor with my vague complaints and found the problem before a $6000 hospital stay.  I just didn't think the doctor would take "tired and lazy all the time" very seriously.  And it sounds like you wouldn't either.
Excellent entry. I am a medical student and I agree 100% with this article. Many people like to play the sick role and will rabidly defend their validity of their "diseases" against anyone who tries to think critically. Don't feel bad if the Fibromyalgia (somatoform) mob starts calling you guys horrible people.
How many medical diseases were thought to be all in your head- doctors refusing to help, friends and family looking at you as if it is your fault you feel so bad- only to later be proven scientifically to be REAL medical issues.  Once the studies, research, time and money add up to proven knowledge we no longer look at those sufferers as nuts or hypochondriacs.  

Wasn't DIABETES thought to be all in your head at one time???  Don't see many doctors claiming that is the case now. Doctors aren't denying insulin and other medications to diabetics.

Hopefully these disbelieving doctors won't discourage true scientists from their study to help those suffering.  I have faith that, in time, we will find answers. Whether we personally suffer from a medical mystery or not I think we all know that true doctors seek to help their patients, not make them feel like overreacting fools. Hopefully in the future you will be able to find some of these REAL doctors to write your articles.
I believe that some of these "dubious diseases" are simply previously known illnesses that do not present the way physicians would expect. I was mis-"diagnosed" for nearly a decade with a "dubious disease," until a physician finally realized that I had a bona fide, run-of-the-mill, and totally treatable cardiovascular disorder--no one had caught it because my profile and symptoms were not textbook typical. I notice that most of these "dubious diseases" are chronic; they are illnesses that don't go away. American society is not set up to deal with this kind of thing--we expect and are expected to recover from illness or die trying. This is fast becoming a serious issue, especially as some formerly fatal illnesses are gradually being transformed into chronic ones through medical progress.
It's funny, but while I've known doctors who dismiss fibromyalgia, none of them have been rheumatologists.  Maybe it's because rheumies are accustomed to diagnosing symptomatically, even for diseases that sometimes have provable blood tests. About 20% of people with RA do NOT test positive for RF, yet still have the disease.  Me, for example: clearly symptomatic, respond to the meds, RF negative.  And it's also obvious I have Sjogrens from my presentation, so not really worth doing a biopsy.  So when I also present with all the symptoms of fibromyalgia, it's not that bothersome that there's nothing to go on but symptoms.  I have tender points, muscle spasms, sleep disturbance; my rheumatologist treats that.  Give it a name, don't, as long as we find ways to mitigate it.

But, then, I'm "lucky" that the fibro is secondary.  If it was my primary condition, and I had to fight with doubting GPs, that would be incredibly frustrating.  My sympathy to those dealing with that brick wall (and try to see a rheumatologist, if you can).
Doctors, you really need to stay current with the biomedical literature. There is indeed true pathophysiology underlying fibromyalgia.  Studies from reputable laboratories at major research universities have reported evidence of central sensitization in patients with fibromyalgia.  This means that their central nervous systems are hyperactive, especially in regard to pain perception.  Central sensitization causes the brain to interpret innocuous stimuli as painful.  Indeed, studies have shown that individuals with fibromyalgia have abnormally high levels of the neurotransmitter Substance P in the cerebrospinal fluid.  Substance P is one of the chemicals responsible for pain perception. Additional studies have reported decreased blood flow to regions of the brain involved in pain perception.  Again, this is real pathology, just not the kind that one can be tested for by the usual lab work done in the doctor's office or outsourced to the nearest mall kiosk.  Whether due to an actual physical injury or not, the perception of pain is still debilitating, and thus needs to be treated and not ignored or dismissed.  Doctors who tell patients that the problem is "all in their head" do them a great disservice, increasing their suffering by adding to their stress and making them feel stupid as well as in pain.  It's not their fault that you haven't kept up with current research and aren't up to speed with material that hasn't yet made it into your med school's curriculum and text books.  Thank goodness there are fine reputable hospital systems such as the Mayo Clinic and the Cleveland Clinic Foundation that recognize fibromyalgia syndrome as real and that treat their patients with respect.
Wow.  This is why Americans hate going to the doctor. My personal experience has been that he actual stress is caused by doctors who are inept and say stupid things like the ones you wrote in this blog. But paybacks a bitch.  Wait until your wife has fibromyalgia, wait until your child has a rare disease that only affects 150,000 people, wait until you can't sleep at night because your legs won't stop cramping up.  Watch someone you love suffer needlessly.  Then comfort them by telling them its al in their heads. Sad and pathetic.
I'm not sure why I'm taking time to respond to this blog as our "MDs" here have already demonstrated that they lack an open mind and are willing to research and learn for the benefit of their patients. I think the Hippocratic Oath died somewhere around WWII.  At any rate, it would be refreshing to see what some collaboration of the medical community could do to help each other learn and be better for it.  I was told I had fibromyalgia 20 years ago.  It is still as tainted a diagnosis then as it is now.  I would rather be told I had some concrete diagnosis that has been socially accepted by the medical community than live with the stigma of having fibromyalgia.  The pain is excruciating and varies by activity.  The obviously well read person that stated that we are all obese does not truly know what fibromyalgia is.  Those of us that are obese are that way because our patronizing MD told us if it hurt to quit using it.  Many of us believed that until later work with physical therapists proved otherwise. But now the pain limits how long we work out which in turn limits the aerobic benefits to burn calories. I hope I'm not talking over your head's here.  Shame on you for taking a shot at a population of people who literally feel walked upon already.
Obviously a Republican Doctor. I went misdiagnosed for an incredibly rare and congenital heart defect until it nearly killed me.
So I wasn't delusional about crushing chest pain.
i am suffering from fibromyalgia, and i'm awful offended that ANYONE could even THINK of this is being a dubious disease.  i affects myself and others affected with it on a daily basis.  sleep problems come with the disease, and when you wake up in the morning, you are exhausted because you never made it into stage 4 sleep cylce, and feel like you haven't slept at all.  your muscles ache like you have been compulsively been working out at the gym for hours, (but you haven't been there in ten years).  your skin is painful to the touch.  you can do stretching excercises for hours, but your muscles never loosen up.  getting out of bed to go to the bathroom makes you miserable because you lay there until you think your bladder will bust because it hurts to get up and go th the bathroom.  every day is a head game just to convince yourself that you have to get up and go on with your day despite the pain you feel from head to toe.  at it's worst, your joints are aching like you're coming down with a case of deunge fever.  miserable is definately not the word for how painful this disease is.  the problem is, your pain is not visible, ergo, no one thinks that there's anything wrong with you.  i do pilates, i meditate, i take care of myself.  but there are times when you literally cannot move or function due to stiffness and pain.  i am on multiple pain medications, and even though i try not to take the full recommended daily dosages and try alternative means to control the pain, sometimes the only thing i can do is knock myself out with medication and pray the pain will have backed itself off by the time i wake up.  fibromyalgia is exhaserbated by stress, lack of sleep, not pacing yourself, strenuous activities, even playing to have fun will knock you down for a day or two.  friends and family members sometimes think that it's in your mind because they cannot see your pain.  i am highly offended that anyone could call this either a dubious OR delusional disease.  i am a 47yr old mother and grandmother with two very sucessful adult children, and three healthy active grandchildren.  i recently had surgery #30, and am looking at many more.  don't tell me that this pain is in my head..., i've had over 6 doctors tell me that they are surprised i haven't swung myself from a ceiling fan.  pain is like the breeze on a spring day.  you can't see it, but you can feel it as it blows on your face and you know it's there.  that's fibromyalgia.  it's always there, visible or not.    
Hey, FatSean...maybe your screen name says it all?  I am 40 years old and have suffered from fibromyalgia for somewhere around 15 years.  I 5' tall, have a very small bone structure and my weight fluctuates between 98 and 102 pounds.  This has been my size and weight since high school.  Wow!  I'm enormous!  Even when pregnant with my children, my weight never got above 115 lbs.  In fact, I have trouble gaining weight.  I know myself and my body and only go to my doctor for check-ups and when there is something seriously wrong.  When the symptoms began all those years ago, I was fortunate enough to have a doctor who not only listened to me, but was wise enough correctly diagnose me following a battery of tests and a referral to a rheumatologist.  Every day I am in pain. Some days are worse than others.  Some days just trying to get out of bed brings tears to my eyes but still I force myself to get up and go on with the day.  I often walk with a limp without even realizing it.  I do not whine and you will rarely hear me complain as the pain has become such a constant in my life.  I only take my medication on the very worst of days, and even then it will just take the edge off.  I get through the day by constantly reminding myself that I should be thankful this condition is not fatal.  However, make no mistake that it is life-altering and it IS dibilitating.  Funny, I can remember when doctors didn't believe TMJ to be a valid diagnosis and yet today many people are helped with surgery and dentists routinely screen for it.  Just because something seems ideopathic today doesn't mean it does not exist or that new discoveries won't be made tomorrow.  A wise person (doctors included) realizes they do not know everything.
I'm asthmatic.  They used to think that was just an attention-getting device, back in the day.  Same with migraines, only neurotic people get migraines, right? I mean look at Proust fergawdssake.  Now there are treatments which work for these conditions, and people don't insinuate that migraines and asthma are "all in your head".  I have to wonder if fibromyalgia and RLS will follow a similar path.  Seems as if, when the medical community can't immediately come up with a physiological explanation for a set of symptoms, they jump too quickly to the conclusion it's all psychosomatic.  Have they done double-blind studies with placebos for these drugs that purport to treat these syndromes?  If the drugs work better than placebo, seems like a powerful argument for the reality of the symptoms they are treating.
I'm puzzled why this article links to another of MSNBC's own articles, titled, "Restless legs in the genes, not the imagination", and then goes on to lump RLS in with a group referred to as "dubious, delusional and purely psychosomatic diseases."

Furthermore, your on-staff doctor is negligent in his research.  If he took the time to check current literature, he'd find that there has been a breakthrough in transcranial ultrasound that can identify the majority RLS sufferers by certain abnormalities in the brain.  See the end of this post for a link to an article.

Unfortunately, your on-staff doctor decided to phone this one in.  He wrote a prideful, egotistical, snide, and insulting monograph without foundation in knowledge or fact.  Frankly, I would suggest that you discontinue your relationship with him, because no doctor should be so wantonly insulting to people in pain, nor so woefully ignorant of what causes it.  He is a fool , and, should you continue to retain him as one of your writers, so are you all.

For more information on transcranial ultrasound and RLS, see here:
http://www.dimag.com/ultrasound/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=204201197
When Doctors Don't know what is wrong and don't want to look for an answer they say "It's all in your head".  That is why they are only "practicing medicine"
I was a very vibrant active individual before the fibromyagia hit. I still do what I can and try not to let the illness over power me.  A positive attitude does a world of good.  But doctors that judge and I have not found one that doesn't do so much damage.  I just deal on my own.  I don"t deal with doctors for my problem anymore they are uncaring.
My mother complained for years of vague, flu-like symptoms. She finally gave up going to doctors about it because they made her feel like a hypocondriac. She eventually developed congestive heart disease in her early sixties. Her doctors could find no obvious cause. She was of normal weight and didn't have any other medical diseases. The doctors kept looking for cancer to explain her steadily deteriorating health, but never found any evidence of cancer. She died of heart failure at age 64.

Her autopsy revealed that she had mysterious thick scar tissue surrounding her heart, lungs and other internal organs. I don't recall that any named disease was associated with the autopsy findings. Apparently she had some inflammatory process going on internally for a long time that went undetected and undiagnosed.

The point is that yes, doctors and medical science DON'T know everything, by any stretch of the imagination. To assert that a patient's symptoms are psychiatric in origin is an assumption and an arrogant and biased one at that.
RLS has been known since the 1950s - it's only the drugs that are new.  

If fibromyalgia isn't real, how do you explain the people who used to lead healthy, active lives and then developed this disease?  Maybe at least some of the psychological problems are caused by people (including doctors) who think it's "all in their heads."  This is especially true when the sufferer is a middle-aged woman; nobody wants to listen to us.  

I saw an article recently talking about chronic pain - apparently pain that lasts longer than a set period of time triggers irreversible changes in nerves and they then "fire" constantly.  There are all kinds of subtle things that happen in the body and science is only beginning to find out about them.  

I'm no fan of Big Pharma, but these new drugs strike me as a black-box kind of proposition - you put the drug into the box and symptom relief comes out the other end and nobody quite understands why.  Look at how long it took to understand how aspirin works!  
Dear Dr. Goldberg, Mr. Leyner, and FatSean CT, Hats off to all of you for your ignorance and shame on you all.  This article was infuriating to read.  I have suffered with fibromyalgia for more than 12 years.  After numerous doctors who didn't really even try to help me, luckily I finally found one who would and could.  First came the sleepless nights.  Try sleeping 3 hrs. a night and then dealing with morning rush hour traffic to get to work.  Next came the excruciating all over body pain, which is the worst in my hips, thighs and legs, which makes sitting extremely difficult, and I have a desk job.  Nothing helped the pain.  Then came constant fatigue, and what we refer to as "brain fog", when you begin having memory problems.  When I drag myself home from work most days, I am too tired to cook or accomplish much else.  Oh, and I might add, am not the slightest bit overweight.  

Many people with my condition are so ill that they cannot work anymore.  Thankfully, I am able to function well enough to keep my job, as I need it.  

Don't try to invalidate something that affects millions of people, unless you personally know what it is like to cry your eyes out because you are in constant chronic pain that doesn't let up.  Ideally you all, or someone close you, should develop fibromyalgia so you can find out firsthand how difficult it is to live with.  It's true that no one is sure what causes it, but I assure you, it is very real.  Studies have proven that the pain centers in the brain are extremely more active in fibro patients, than in healthy people.   The nerves send the pain signals to the brain, even though there is no apparent reason for the individual to be in pain.  This doesn't mean the pain is not very real. I have to take a hydrocodone/tylenol combination along with muscle relaxers in order to obtain any relief from the constant pain.  Unfortunately, these medications are not long acting, so several hours later, I am in intense pain again. I also have to take a sleeping med to get a full nights sleep. These meds are not curing the underlying problem, but they do give me enough relief to function in a diminished capacity.  I would give anything to be the person I was before fibromyalgia took over my life.
"Dubious disease?" "Ambiguous ailments?" What part of this article, exactly, was supposed to help? By pointing fingers and judging people with very real health problems, you are merely proving yourselves to be as callous and uncaring as people with these problems have come to expect. I have IBS, I've done every stomach and bowel-related test known to man and THAT is what I have. I did not decide that I would have IBS, that's what my (reliable) doctor told me.
You're a disgrace to the profession and articles like this one are why a lot of people don't go to the doctor at all...they know they won't be believed anyway.
Don't judge until you've walked a mile in their shoes. I always thought my mom was a hypochondriac - naseau, headaches - but no fever - for days. No one else in the family had whatever she had, and she never went anywhere to catch anything. Later I started getting that "syndrome" and with an informed, modern doctor learned I had migraines (which can run in families). Something her doctors never mentioned for her! So someday some of these psychosomatic illnesses may be proven to be true physical problems as we learn more. And keep an open mind.
You are the worst sort of medical personel. You have only disdain for the suffering of others. I would suspect your level of care involves telling your pts. to take two aspirin and don't call us again. You have no skills involving the investigation of medical symptoms. I don't know with whom I am more annoyed ; you two Neanderthals or myself for responding to your insensitive blog.
This is a short lists of diseases that were once considered psyhogenic or dubious by the medical community, but are now considered "real" after improvements in diagnoistics:

Tourette Syndrome
neurosyphilis
epilepsy
small fiber neuropathy
multiple sclerosis
Myastenia Gravis
Transverse Myelitis
Asthma
Diabetes
Parkinson's
Many more...
Wow!   You guys are getting smoked about FMS.  I'd bet it is because the same type of accusations recently made by the NY Times, and you managed to fall right into the mess.

I have couple of comments:  (1) Do you remember when MS was 'all in your head'?   It wasn't that long ago that people suffering and dying from that problem were considered hypochondriacs.  And Chronic Fatique?!?!  That was considered the ultimate in laziness, until recently when they discovered a genetic marker for it.  Leukemia 'never' happened in children, and endometriosis 'never' happened to women under 30.  Really?

(2) I think that your comment about names has a ring of truth.  FMS was originally named in regards to the generalized muscle pain, and there is some evidence that FMS suffers have problems processing lactic acid (what your muscles build up when you work them).  Other recent studies indicate that it may be a neurological issue or have an underlying neurological component, and some people have suggested changing the vernacular to something like CSS (central sensitivity syndrome) to better represent it.  
Let's make it simpler than that:  we recognize that some people see poorly, and some people see especially well.  We have syndromes for people who DON'T feel pain - why is it so hard to accept the idea that someone may be MORE sensitive to pain?
I am serum positive for Rheumatoid Arthritis ("RA"), and also Fibromyalgia, by a Board-Certified Rheumatologist who was as skeptical as I used to be about such illnesses.  While there is a media frenzy about injectable drugs for RA, there has been very little done up until recently for Fibromyalgia.  As a person who has been diagnosed with both illnesses, I can assure you that on any given day, my Fibromyalgia is far more difficult to manage than my RA.  I do wish medical professionals would wake up, and understand that symptoms are symptoms, no matter where they come from.  Sufferers of debilitating diseases all share the same wish - and that is to be well.  By the way, I used to be slim and that is when my symptoms were the worst.  Now that I am heavier by 30 pounds than I was 20 years ago, I actually am less symptomatic.  You non-believers have no idea what you're talking about.  I'd like to see you endure what Fibro sufferers endure every day for just 5 minute.  Doubtful that you could take it.  Think of the worst flu you ever had in your life and imagine that it never leaves you.  THAT is wjhat Fibromyalgia feels like.  
I am serum positive for Rheumatoid Arthritis ("RA"), and also Fibromyalgia, by a Board-Certified Rheumatologist who was as skeptical as I used to be about such illnesses.  While there is a media frenzy about injectable drugs for RA, there has been very little done up until recently for Fibromyalgia.  As a person who has been diagnosed with both illnesses, I can assure you that on any given day, my Fibromyalgia is far more difficult to manage than my RA.  I do wish medical professionals would wake up, and understand that symptoms are symptoms, no matter where they come from.  Sufferers of debilitating diseases all share the same wish - and that is to be well.  By the way, I used to be slim and that is when my symptoms were the worst.  Now that I am heavier by 30 pounds than I was 20 years ago, I actually am less symptomatic.  You non-believers have no idea what you're talking about.  I'd like to see you endure what Fibro sufferers endure every day for just 5 minute.  Doubtful that you could take it.  Think of the worst flu you ever had in your life and imagine that it never leaves you.  THAT is wjhat Fibromyalgia feels like.  
I find it offensive and just plain ignorant that some people (FAT SEAN?)can dismiss other people's pain and the effect that fibromyalgia has on their day-to-day lives.  This is a horrendous syndrome and I would not wish it on my worst enemy; although it does bring a smile to my lips to think that perhaps karma will play out her hand and deliver this imaginary syndrome to FatSean.   I am 52 years old have was diagnosed w/fibro when I was 22; 30 years is a long time to be in pain every moment of EVERY day; and then on top of that you have to deal with morons that want to lump you into the "all in her head, overweight woman" category.   Again FATSean, I am 5'10" and on a good day I weigh 120.  Unless you know what you are talking about I suggest you keep it to yourself as none of us want to hear it!
RLS can make you want to saw off your legs to be free from it or is that just in my head ? i can also relate to the bruises from beating on ones own legs.it can drive you insane.
Fibromyalgia -- good friend was diagnosed with it. Five years of misery later, she found out she had Lyme disease. Also read of a recent theory that some fibromyalgia sufferers may be Vitamin D deficient.
RLS -- I had it. Found out I was anemic, and iron supplements took care of it along with a host of other symptoms.
Amazing what open-minded doctors can figure out.
Let's see, this is the same profession that thought that until app 20 years ago, that was ukcers were caused by foood, dring or stress. We now know that the is junk We now known the 2 leading causes of ulcers are  a bacteria called H.Purea and NSAID. The landfill of medical theory is filled with junk science when it comes to what is actually going on. Your theory will koin that labdfill.
There are many examples of problems that people have that has been tossed aside as Junk only later to be proven to uave an underlying cause.
fINALLY, A GOOD MOVE ON Billy and Mark's part to promote their own book that was dying a much-needed death. I am going to ask the AMA to look into this matter.
All I have to say is.. How dare you. It must be wonderful living in your perfect world. With your trophy wife and A+ student star athlete children while you cruise around in the latest lexus laughing at us helpless 'delusional' people. Hopefully one day none of these 'dusious' diseases strike you or your loved ones.
My father is a prime example of your wonderful 'work'. This year he has just been diagnosed with IBM (inclusion body myositis). The disease is so rare it wasn't recognized until a few years ago by an Iraqi doctor (note that dr's from other countries are WILLING to look into the 'dubious' diseases) This disease is where his immune system is so incredibly strong, it's eating away at his muscles. Pretty soon he will have to be fed through a tube and bed ridden. Thankfully my father is a war veteran and was seeing physicians at the VA instead of text book idiots such as you two Billy and Mark. You most likely would have told him it's due to a lack of exercise or protein in his diet and shoved him out the door.
It's amazing that you have been even given a place to speak your minds when you have no CLUE whatsoever as to treating people it seems. Your bedside manners are sorely lacking.
Perhaps you should use that 'hard earned' money you have managed to extract from those 'hypochondriacs' and go back to school and educate yourself further.

Please be sure to stop treating patients ASAP until you have better knowledge of actually CARING

and for the record Mark. That joke is disgusting and as funny as me kicking you in the groin. Don't ever tell it again.
who picks out the posts that show up on this site...funny i have spoken to several people who's posts never made it online....hmmmm i wonder why????  
dr. goldberg, mr. leyner, and particularly, fatsean, first things first.  do you get your daily jollies making fun of, and or calling people who are truly in pain hypocondriacs?  the more i read your aritcle, the more angry i get.  as previously stated when i wrote to you this am, (note that a lot of chronic pain sufferes are writing to you in the wee hours of the morning when others are usually enjoying the beginnings of a good nights sleep), or as trained professionals (and the wannabe psychiatrist fatsean) has this fact conviently slipped by your supposed trained eye?  we, as a group of people that know from experience, our pain is very real.  as previously stated, just beause you can't see our pain, that does not mean that it is not real, and it affects every aspect of our being.  i wish no harm to anyone, but since our pain is chronic and thankfully not life threatening, i will dutifully pray that the three of you have the priveledge of being where we are now, experiencing pain from head to toe 24-7.  i will pray that when you seek medical attention to find the source of your pain, that you have a qualified physician tell you that you are a hypochondriac and that it's all in your head.  i will pray that you are unable to sleep due to the inability to find relief.  i will pray that it affects every aspect of your life including your jobs, your daily activities, your family life, your hobbies, your very sanity itself.  then you will be just like me, and every other person with the "dubious and delusional" conditions that you seem to think are simply in our heads.  i will pray that you will be unable to find relief of any kind.  i will pray that you have to allow yourself to become dependent on pain medications that only give temporary relief at best.  i will pray that you are in pain when you sit, stand, walk, recline, and when you go to bed at night.  i will pray that you become unable to make daily plans because your pain levels are unpredictable.  i will pray that it affects your thinking and your mind becomes clouded due to lack of sleep.  i will pray that the pain affects your hands so that you have trouble typing the degrading comments that you make to us all.  i will pray that your legs hurt constantly so that you have trouble walking.  i will pray that your feet ache like you are walking barefoot on rocks.  i will pray that your back and shoulders ache so bad that you think you are going to loose your mind.  i will pray that your joints ache daily like you have the flu.  i will pray that with the totality of the pain you feel, the sleep you can't seem to find, and the mind numbing ache that nothing seems to even begin to soothe, you will have to go on with your daily lives as usual, just as we do.  i will pray that it takes away the most simple joys of your lives, like playing with your children or grandchildren.  i will pray that you are put in the same position as those of us that you so blantantly call "delusional".  don't worry, it won't kill you, even though the occasional thought of going to sleep and never waking up to feel the pain again will cross your mind now and then.  then, and ONLY then, will you be qualified to judge those of us experiencing this every hour of every day of our lives.  we are not ignorant, uneducated people looking for attention or drugs, (although i will admit that there are people out there that use their pain as an excuse), but we are people dealing with chronic pain as best as we know how, and we are still making every attempt to function and lead normal lives.  and to you fatsean, other than my arthritis, fibromyalgia, 30+ ortho surgeries, and the high blood pressure that goes with my breakthrough pain spikes, i am physically in good shape.  i am 47 and i look 35.  despite being on disability since i was 28, i still hold down a part-time job.  (approximately 5-15hrs per week, depending on the pain)  i am NOT overweight,(as you seem to categorize all fibro patients as being.)  i am a vegetarian, and it takes everything i have to simply make myself eat because the narcotics leave me with no appetite.  my daughter is a journalist, and she is appalled that the three of you continue to make statements based on your opinions, without any fact to back up your claims.  even though i would not wish fibromyalgia on my worst enemy, experience is the best teacher.  and i pray that the three of you will at sometime in your lives be where we are.  then, and ONLY then, will you have any type of educated idea what you are talking about.  
hi ive been listening to the pod casts for about a year now. and i have to say i havnt always aggreed with you but dissing on fibromyalgia is totally bogus and makes me doubt you in a big way. there are more things in heaven and earth then anyman may name and i know that ya many of the suffers of FMS are 3f (female fat and 40) BUT IM 19 i was diagonosed when i was 12. thats right 12. fms is a major problem those with the disease dont need another jerk with a degree telling them that its all in our heads. also i would suggest that you look into myofacial pain syndorme, because many FMS paients will be diagnosed with Myofacial pain and or cronic fatigue or both. Also a common marker of FMS is a lack of healing sleep.
May you get everything you dont believe in.
Dr. Goldberg and Mark,  what you both sound like - is this is what you have found works for you (the only way to get attention by hurting people and being obstinant.  I see by the replies, people trying to defend themselves against the typical bullies.  Probably have done the same thing all your life I'd BET.

Sounds like you both are the ones who need to take close look at yourselves.  But we all know people like you can't, that's why it's easy for you to criticize people in pain, it's that kick em when they're down symdrome, and we all know that comes from a deeper problem moreso than even Morgellons.


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