Spooked? Scientist explains why we see what isn't there

Seeing ghosts? Richard Wiseman, a psychologist and professor at the University of Hertfordshire, says don’t worry: There’s no such thing -- and you're not the only one who's seeing spooky sights. In his latest book, "Paranormality: Why We See What Isn’t There," Wiseman, a former magician, looks at psychic phenomena through the prism of science.  

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Q: What is it about humans that make us want to believe in the paranormal?
A: I think there a few things going on. First, I think it’s comforting. If you’re sick, and there’s a psychic healer who says she can help you, or if you lost someone you love, but a medium says she can contact that person, both of those things provide some solace. Second, many people claim to have had paranormal experiences, and that’s very attractive to certain groups.

Q: Is it more acceptable to believe in the paranormal in London than, say, Chicago?
A:
Actually, it’s hardwired into our brain, so it’s a worldwide phenomenon. About 40 to 50 percent of people in the U.K. claim to have had a paranormal experience. In the U.S. it’s about 80 to 90 percent. That’s a terrifying statistic, but it’s not surprising with all the psychic hotlines and (paranormal) television shows there. We couldn’t even get the book published in the U.S. because it takes a skeptical look at the paranormal. Publishers said there would be no interest.

Q: We’ve all seen stories about rooms that are unusually cold. Even the family pet won’t go in them. What’s going on?
A: We’ve run quite a lot of experiments on so-called haunted places. Sometimes it’s not actually colder in those rooms. It’s just thermal patterns or low frequency sound waves from traffic or wind. Animals detect that better than humans.

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Q: So when the family cat starts acting weird, you’re saying we don’t need to run from the room screaming like little girls, right?
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You can do whatever you want in your own home. But being afraid is perfectly normal. In terms of evolution, we got cues from animals. If an animal was afraid of something or seemed vigilant, that was a cue for humans to be more watchful.

Q: Sometimes people say they feel a scary presence while asleep. Then they wake up and can’t move.
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It’s called sleep paralysis, and it’s really well established. When you dream, the body is very sophisticated and paralyzes you so you don’t act out a dream. But sometimes there’s confusion between waking and dreaming that can cause some bizarre imagery. Once people understand that, it’s not so terrifying.

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How does the egghead explain 3 different people "seeing" the same thing in the same house without knowing the others had seen this thing that isn't apparently real? We only discovered we each saw the same little "ghost" girl after one of us had brought it up!!

These sightings occurred separately, independently over a year period.

  • 13 votes
#1 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:57 AM EDT

There are alot of things cannot be explained and scientist always look for a way to explain them. The sleep paralsis is crap because i experienced it a few times and the last time i experienced it,i wasntt fully asleep. I was laying on my belly and my head was turn to the left and i decided to change the position i was sleeping in so i was awake for a little while, I got up and turn my whole body to lie on the right and after 30 secs i felt my ears clogged up (like when you're in an airplane) and i couldn't move or my body or talk, and my eyes were half open, i decided to pray as soon as it happen (my mom told to pray when it happens) and it left after about 50 seconds, when i turned to see what was there, there was nothing.

That wasn't any sleep paralysis.....

  • 5 votes
#1.1 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 8:18 PM EDT

It is great for someone to explain 'paranormal' from the point of science. Let's see this scientist last the night in Ft Mifflin or Eastern State Penn (phila area). How about the scientific research on Queen Mary ? Why can't they get video cameras to be able to take a clean shot of the pool ? There are some places in Savannah that I would like to see this clown stay the night in particularly the tomb. He might write a different paper. Those in Savannah can be more specific. Explain the pictures for years by different cameras shot there ? What about that scientific notion energy can never be destroyed ? Has he ever seen ghost hunters show ?

  • 6 votes
#1.2 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 8:39 PM EDT

Perhaps someone should write an article entitled, "Why Scientists Fail to See the Obvious!"

  • 6 votes
#1.3 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 8:41 PM EDT

You are right in stating that scientists always try to come up with some "scientific" explaination for paranormal goings on only because people view them as reliable, non-disputable sources. It's too abstract for the non believer to believe and so the scientist is the buffer or "blankey". Continue with your belief system. No one ever said that you had to go against your personal beliefs. And for us believers, a non biased approach into the spirit world is all it takes to satisfy...we will never try to change you. Happy hauntings.

  • 3 votes
#1.4 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:49 PM EDT

Richard Wiseman my have his Ph.D., but he should not write about things he is completely ignorant about. He can explain away cold spots, orbs in photos, and flickering lights. What he can't explain away is a skeptic seeing a man very clearly in their home before he vanished, not knowing who he was until they saw him in a photo and found out he was deceased but had lived in the home previously.

  • 4 votes
#1.5 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:57 PM EDT

I agree with you all. No one can explain away what one persons' paranormal experience is about or the source. The expalinations to the particular paranormal scenarios were very lame at best, but then how can one believe an illusionist could explain such experiences when they make there way in life by slight of hand and deception. A bit ironic.

  • 4 votes
#1.6 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:58 PM EDT

I really love everyones views because we all have the right to them. What I'm not getting out of this is why some people are calling eachother names in the meantime. This should be a happy hwy, not one with extreme roadrage. It's a fun filled topic so if you don't want to be a part of it, take the next exit.

  • 5 votes
#1.7 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:52 PM EDT

I saw a ghost when I was about 4 years old,in the sixties. We never saw scary movies, in bed by 7, had limited access to outside influences,and my parents were not the types to tell stories, and were almost boring people. We went to my mothers cousins house, and i saw a lady above the staircase in a pretty dress, she warned me to be careful playing on the stairs. I knew she looked odd and told my mom and her cousins wife about it, later my mom told my dad that I'd seen the wifes mother...as i'd described her....she'd been passed for many years by then. So what comfort was I looking for Dr., or group to belong to...I was adopted by the way...met my birth mother in my thirties...seems all the women see these things...still do sometimes...and I hate it.....its sometimes frightening. So until you do...there are alot of things that a scientific mind just cannot explain...didnt scientists once think the wolrd was flat??

  • 4 votes
#1.8 - Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:07 AM EDT
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the article was very one sided. my whole life i have had "paranormal"experiences. mostly through dreams.i have become convinced of our connectivness as spiritual brings. every paranormal instance i've had clairifies this certainty.

  • 2 votes
#1.10 - Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:18 AM EDT

Wendy9999 - Scientists have believed the world round for over 3000 years. They even estimated the diameter very closely. It was the non-scientists, those who only wanted to believe or only wanted others to believe something, who thought the world was flat. It is the believers that don't want something proven. (If you are a witch, you will float in water and be burned. If not, you'll sink and go to heaven. Either way, you die.) Many scientists over history have been punished for not believing. Failure to believe is a threat to those who depend on believers. Belief provides a simple solution and people like simplicity.

Ghosts, oh, yeah. I think they exist or that our brains help us to see something in many, as yet unexplained ways. We may even conjure them ourselves from our experiences. Lost souls? Who knows, ask them! Bad scary things? Only if we believe them to be!

  • 1 vote
#1.11 - Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:59 AM EDT
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Replace the word paranormal with the word religion. Same crap, different name.

  • 19 votes
#2 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:11 PM EDT

agreed!

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#2.1 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:04 PM EDT

OMG, there's always one in the bunch.

  • 10 votes
#2.2 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:14 PM EDT

I'm a pretty skeptical person, but here's my experience with the supernatural:

I bought a house about 3 years ago and the house was built in 1914. There have been an number of families that have lived there in the past, but apparently the house was owned (and built) by a family in the demolition/construction/carting businesses back in the early 20th century. The basement is unfinished and I've found numerous artifacts down there in the dirt (i.e. old red-eye gin bottles, war medals, a cracked safe, coins, etc.). From what I understand, the house was used to make gin during prohibition and a number of illicit activities may have occurred there.

Skip ahead - my 3 year old son won't sleep in his room on the third floor because every night at around 2:30am -3:00am, he wakes up and hears people talking to him up there. Sure, he's three years old so who knows what is in his imagination. However, my wife and kids stay down at the jersey shore during the summer weekdays, so I'm home alone all week. I haven't told her much about this because she will freak out and make me sell the house - and I like the house! Without fail, at 2:30am -3:00am, only if the lights are off, I hear footsteps up stairs, leading down the stairs to outside my bedroom door. As soon as I turn the light on, the footsteps stop immediately. Within 30 seconds of my turning the lights off, the footsteps start again. I've tried to surprise whatever it was and open my bedroom door quickly, but by the time the door swings open, all is normal again. The footsteps never occur after 4:00am. The footsteps are loud enough to wake me out of a deep sleep. My brother-in-law stayed over last week and when we left the house at 6:30am, he told me "You're house is haunted". I laughed and told him I know - he told me about the footsteps. He thought it was me walking around in the middle of the night and he stepped out of his bedroom to see and nobody was there...

Call it what you will, but I have no explanation for the above.

EC

  • 16 votes
#2.3 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:34 PM EDT

i believe u 100% things happen and scientists don't like things to be un explained so they make something up. that way they got more attention.

  • 8 votes
#2.4 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:49 PM EDT

I also have seen, heard and felt "things" (or ghosts/presences) that others have seen, heard and felt at either the same time or at least in the same place. What I want to know is if these things happen and are seen, heard and felt by humans, then why can't they be captured on film or documented (factually)? My daughter watches those paranormal shows and every now and then I do too but they never prove or film a ghost. What I felt, seen and heard could not be scientifically explained away.

  • 3 votes
#2.5 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:57 PM EDT

I have experienced too many to not believe. If you are closed in your spirit (you have a wall) to avoid been hurt, surprised, etc. maybe that is the reason you haven't experienced such spiritual things. First, you may not even be a spiritual person and if you are then you do not understand the John 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

  • 6 votes
#2.6 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:00 PM EDT

I agree with you about religion.

However, there is much evidence about the existence of the paranormal. Why would anyone be so arrogant to think that only the things we understand can possibly occur?

As for religion - this is is a form, in many cases, of mass brain washing.

  • 5 votes
#2.7 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:19 PM EDT

Hey, had you thought about inviting the author/skeptic of this book to spend the night at your house?? Maybe he and a tribe of "scientists" can come up with an explanation of what is happening-- the voices, the footsteps. Who knows? Maybe there's some perfectly logical explanation-- the plumbing pipes, the electricity, the old furnace, stray sound waves, far off traffic, the odd magnetic field... Challenge the author and his chosen team of experts to come to your house to solve your mystery!! If he is going to write about debunking paranormal myths, then he should be ready to step up to the plate to solve this one. Shouldn't he?

I have been in a house where there were "footsteps" heard at night on the stairs to the 2nd floor and attic. There was also the attic door that swung open, or if it did not always actually open, the same creaky sound was heard as if it had been opened. Once the "footsteps" got to the top of the attic stairs (you could count the steps, and they matched the number of stairs), there was the sound of a faucet squeaking on and water flowing, although plumbers checked, and there was never any water pipe plumbing up there in the attic. If you happened to be on the stairs when the "footsteps" passed, you felt a cold breeze; the cats resolutely avoided the stairs at night. This phenomenon did not happen every night, nor did it happen with any predictable regularity. My friend and her family stayed in that house, and nothing ever came of the phenomenon-- no harm, no problems. They just got used to it, and warned visitors who were staying overnight. They made sure to close their bedroom doors at night. The cold chill on the stairs when the "steps" went by could have been explained by a simple fear reaction. But, no one ever explained the other sounds. None of it was specifically tied to the lights being on or off, but they were invariably off when it happened because it was the middle of the night. Did we all have hyperactive imaginations? Or was there a logical explanation no one ever discovered? Experts who go around writing books ought to be able to share their investigative techniques and help all the people in the world who feel that their houses are "haunted", or at least, have suspiciously unexplained phenomena. If there ought to be a rational explanation for every such phenomenon, then they ought to be able to verify that in every situation. Otherwise, I'll remain skeptical, and suspect that they don't really know all the answers, after all.

  • 4 votes
#2.8 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:22 PM EDT

Atheists:

Mao, Stalin, Hitler (pagen), leaders of N. Vietnam, and Korea.

Body Count: 300,000,000

  • 5 votes
#2.9 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:28 PM EDT

I recently watched a show ("My Ghost Story" episodes are on Hulu.com) where a woman took pictures of water in a clear bowl on top of a dark surface and images of peoples faces or animals appeared.

So... I was a bit curious. I took some pics and I saw some faces as well. I thought ok my brain is making me see these faces but after sending the pic to someone else they said they saw them too. I do believe in spirits and that they have not left this world.

#s-p2-so-i0
If anyone wants to watch the whole episode that is your choice but the actual story with the water and the pictures starts at 15:16.

  • 1 vote
#2.10 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:29 PM EDT

When ppl see ghosts why do they have clothes on? obviously its a trick or your mind is playing games, or you done too much drugs. You wasnt born with clothes, so why would you see a ghost with clothes on? What do they decide to take their favorite outfit to the afterlife, or they issue you a pair of scooby doo mystery villian get- up. Idk, but their is no evidance of a ghost. why havnt someone captured one. or took a picture of one? comon sense answers to questions will stop you from going crazy.

  • 6 votes
#2.11 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:58 PM EDT

You're wrong. The paranormal does exist.

I was only a 4-year-old child when I saw my dead aunt at a family reunion watching my family play outside. I didn't understand DEATH at the time, so explain that. i didn't understand how or why she died. She was MURDERED and now over 20 years later I found out that SHE planned that family reunion. Explain that one to me.

  • 4 votes
#2.12 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:06 PM EDT

The man who wrote this book is entitled to his opinion, and I respect that. But he is totally off the mark. Yes, a lot of paranormal activity is easily explainable as normal phenomena. However, after 30 years of investigating and studying the paranormal, I am 100% certain that there ARE such things as spirits or ghosts and there ARE such things as demons (or inhuman haunting). I have smelled them, I have heard them, I have seen them, and I have experienced what they can do. Their mode of operation is a mystery, and that is what we have been researching for 30 years. Over that 30 years my brother and I have gathered TONS of evidence to support this. To write off an afterlife or to think that energy is lost or destroyed at death is a contridiction in the basic laws of physics. Believe what you may, but just because you don't believe in the paranormal doesn't mean it doesn't exsist.

  • 8 votes
#2.13 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:08 PM EDT

Why is it that you have to completely deny the possibility of ghosts? It's true, you were not born with clothes, but were you not dressed with clothes immediately after entering the world? Were you not taught from a very young age the importance of clothes? Have you not spent over half of your life in clothes? (unless you're a nudist) Are you not likely to die in clothes too? Clothes are such a huge part of our lives, it is no wonder that say the ghost of a man from the 1800's who died wearing a suit would appear as a ghost wearing a suit. Keep in mind that there are also different types of ghosts. Just because you have not been able to experience it does not mean that it does not exist. One of the greatest human faults is their arrogance, assuming that if they're not familiar with something, it must not exist. Open your mind.

  • 7 votes
#2.14 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:11 PM EDT

Rocio, your post might be the single most ignorant, backward, contradictory statement I have ever read in my entire life!!

  • 3 votes
#2.15 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:28 PM EDT

I believe in only one ghost. The HOLY GHOST. I can say that I have seen a demon, but as far as a "ghost" there is no proof that they exist. Your mind plays tricks on you and lets you think things. If people didn't watch shows like "A Haunting" or "Ghost Hunters" then the thoughts wouldn't be there. Pray to the Holy Ghost and you won't have any problems.

    #2.16 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:58 PM EDT

    Janelle, to quote Wallinnm (though not for the same reason) "your post might be the single most ignorant, backward, contradictory statement I have ever read in my entire life!!" You've seen demons, but ghosts can't possibly exist. That's just moronic.

    • 6 votes
    #2.17 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 8:57 PM EDT

    I've had too many experiences with the paranormal to say that ghosts don't exist. I'm 58 years old and they didn't suddenly manafest after "Ghost Hunters" came on the air. My first experience was when I was 6 years old and I've continued to have several more since then. So making the statement that if it weren't for shows like that then the thoughts wouldn't be there is completely untrue. I too grew up with the influence of The HOLY GHOST, but I'm here to tell you that the other ghosts exist too.

    And charismakid ... are you kidding me? That is the most idiodic nonsense I think I've ever read.

    • 2 votes
    #2.18 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:04 PM EDT

    Because demons are not the same as "ghosts". Demons existed in the Bible but not once are ghosts ever mentioned. Demons are evil and of Satan. When I saw the demon it was jumping off of my ex-husband, who by the way is not a Christian. And not once have I seen or heard anything since my divorce.

    • 1 vote
    #2.19 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:07 PM EDT

    You must be pentecostal, that's what I was brought up as. If you believe that there are demons then how can you not believe in spirits. They are almost one in the same, Demons are from the devil and spirits are from God, either way they were once human beings! I do believe in ghost, I have believed in them for some time now. I have had a lot happen to me in my lifetime not to believe in them. As for everyone else, It's up to you wether or not you believe it, you can talk yourself out of a lot of things just as you can talk yourself into them. It's not horrible to believe in them nor is it to believe they don't exist. It's what ever helps you sleep at night.

    • 1 vote
    #2.20 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:11 PM EDT

    The Bible plainly states in 2 Corinthians 5:8 We are confident ,I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord. That right there PROVES beyond a shadow of a doubt that "ghosts" DO NOT exist.

      #2.21 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:19 PM EDT

      There's a whole bunch of other stuff in the Bible that good Christians don't take literally. Why take one thing literally and not the other? At the very least I would think if you can believe in something that many would consider preposterous you can leave room that maybe other people have experienced something that isn't outlined in the scope of your beliefs.

        #2.22 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:24 PM EDT

        so you don't believe in ghosts but you believe in the holy ghost............can you say HYPOCRITE.............

        • 1 vote
        #2.23 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:25 PM EDT

        Janelle-3694233 you are entitled to your opinion as others are entitled to theirs. If you have never experienced this type of situation you shouldn't comment on it's merits. I myself died on the operating table while having a brain tumor removed. I met a very dear friend who had passed away about three weeks earlier from a massive heart attack. He told me it was not my time and I had to go back. He also gave me a message to give to my husband. When I told my husband what he had said, his jaw fell and told me that only he and my deceased friend knew this information. Yes, there are more spirts other than the "Hold Ghost."

        • 2 votes
        #2.24 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:34 PM EDT

        No House I was not brought up pentecostal. My denomination is Southern Baptist, but my belief is Christianity. Allen:No I am not a hypocrite. When Jesus died on the cross for me and ascended into heaven He became the Holy Ghost. The Trinity is as follows: God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. SS: I take everything in the Bible literally. Without it those instructions we would be nowhere. What is written in the Bible is applied to my everyday life and my childrens as well.

        • 1 vote
        #2.25 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:06 PM EDT

        i feel sorry for the guy who says religion is a form of brain washing.

        • 2 votes
        #2.26 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:50 PM EDT

        I'm as skeptical as anyone when it comes to ghosts, having never experienced one myself. However, I'm also open-minded enough to know that just because we can't prove the existence of something, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. We just don't have the tools to verify it. Scientists believe something has to be empirically proven before they will embrace its existence. That's just not always possible. Five hundred years ago, we couldn't prove the existence of the atom. That didn't mean it didn't exist. Same thing goes for ghosts, God, UFOs, whatever. Lack of empirical evidence does not necessarily equate to lack of existence.

        I'm a Christian too, and for those quoting the Bible, there is actually an instance in the Bible where a ghost was called up. The Witch of Endor called up Samuel's ghost. It doesn't say an apparition that looked like Samuel, or a demon impersonating Samuel, it identifies the spirit AS Samuel. Also, the disciples on the boat, when they saw Jesus walking on water, were afraid that he was a ghost, so the idea of ghosts was certainly known at that time. Do they wander around willy-nilly today? Don't know. I'm skeptical, but not ruling out their existence just yet.

        • 3 votes
        #2.27 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:54 PM EDT

        so Ur a dead believer in a eye for a eye. the bible is wrote by man and no other.which story's date back to Babylonian times and so on . And if you want proof in ghost spirits or what ever i have two pics taken in my house that will turn ur hair white and prove u different. One is of two apparitions in the mirror, the second is of a three foot tall creature not of this world. The family heirs growls and growling, laughing , we've been touched ,scratched , had closed doors open that were shut all the way and have had them closed. I have friends and neighbors that wont come over because they have experienced the same things. So you tell me what it is sister because it ain't holy that's for sure.

        • 1 vote
        #2.28 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:08 PM EDT

        janelle, i do not mean to attack your religus beliefs however,

        i attend a catholic colege (although i am lutheran) and i have been told in some of my relgious classes that you cannot take one sentence or passage from the bible. you have to include EVERYTHING. the passages before and after, the chapters before and after. and yes if you are looking for the words GHOSTS in the bible you are not going to find it because ghost is a modern day word

        also the jesus did not become the holy spirt. the holy spirit impregnated mary with jesus. he became incarnated with the spirt but he did not become the holy spirit.

        • 2 votes
        #2.29 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:08 PM EDT

        I was bitten on my back by something when I was 19 yrs old. It held me down and talked wierd voices to me for about 5 min. Then it bite me . I had teeth marks the whole width and lenght of my back. It was daytime and I had 4 people there that seen it happened. My bedroom closet was like walking into a freezer. you could see your breath when you walked in there. That was a demon that held me down,you don't ever want to experance that. I seen my buddy 2 hrs after he was murder standing in my bedroom pointing at me .

        • 1 vote
        #2.30 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:17 PM EDT

        charismakid,

        there has been pictures taken of ghosts. and how do you sugest to "capture" a ghost. its not like ghostbusters. as for cloths i aggree with oriana. clothes are a major part of a persons life. and sometimes the "ghost" is some sort of residual haunting, a energy echo of something that happened in the past. it replays it self over and over, like a video so of course ther would be clothes.

        • 1 vote
        #2.31 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:19 PM EDT

        There are believers and there are non-believers in this world and there always will be. I, myself, am a believer. I have experienced so much from a child to my present age of 39 that there is no way that reading this article nor the book it talks about could ever make me change my mind. Everyone has the right to have their own opinions. The supernatural does exist. It sounds to me like the author hasn't had anything of the sort happen to him yet, OR he has and has been trying to rationalize or deny the situation ever since. There are some places that he really should visit during the night if he's interested in the subject to one extent or the other. It could possibly broaden his experiences and mind.

        • 1 vote
        #2.32 - Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:35 AM EDT

        Has anyone here actually read this book? There seems to be a lot of strong opinion that Wiseman's talking rubbish, but from what I can make out - and I haven't read all of the posts - people are rejecting his arguments/findings before they've read them? Saying "Yeah, but how does he explain [this weird thing that happened to me and my mates]??" isn't the most robust of arguments?

        Do people know where they were on the day of the challenger disaster (or JFK's assassination or 9/11)? A fascinating study interviewed people in the days following the event, and asked them where they were/what they were doing. They then followed up as many as they could a year or so later, and asked the same question. I forget the exact stats, but a significant proportion gave a different account of their whereabouts that day. I recall some were shocked, and (probably responsibly) trusted their initial version; but a proportion again, in effect, responded "No, I was mistaken a couple of days after the tragedy, I know now, a year later, that I was definitely somewhere else!" (I think the researcher was called Neisser?)

        Of course, we all know that we'd never misremember the past, embellish our memories, or subconsciously model the past to fit with our preconceptions or a more satisfying version of events. None of us are social animals who subtly conspire with fellow human beings to construct/protect interesting stories that deviate from reality ...And damn those scientists for trying to account for such variables - at the end of the day, some of us just know our memories and personalities are infallible!

        Ta.

        Frustrato

        • 2 votes
        #2.33 - Fri Jul 29, 2011 4:22 AM EDT
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        I always liked Piggy's comment in "Lord of the Flies" : If ghosts existed things wouldn't make sense, clocks and cars wouldn't work.

        In other words - if there really were ghosts, they could do anything at any moment

        or GM could start making ghost-powered cars and we would not have the energy crisis we have right now (after all billions of people are already dead, enough to power everything we own)

        • 10 votes
        Reply#3 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:36 PM EDT

        Ghost are in another dimension, they are not meant to do anything in the natural since they have no physical body. But, they do exist. Just because you may never seen them or had any type of connection; does not mean they are non-existent. They truly are lost souls who refuse to go to the light and have their own agenda. Their agenda is to follow their living family members and flow through them to feel life and influence their direction in life. We call that the "Family Spirit."

        • 1 vote
        #3.1 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:12 PM EDT

        I'm not sure what kind of experience you would call this, maybe nothing. When I was 12, I was going to another town to spend the weekend with my father. This is about a 30 minute ride. About 10 Minutes in I became anxious and full dread. I have never suffered from any medical or mental conditions. My mother realized something was going on with me and pulled into a gas station. My mother began questioning me about what was wrong. It was so hard to explain. All I could tell her was "we need to go home." All I felt was a sense that I needed to go back home. She agreed to take me back home though she thought I was acting crazy. Those were her exact words to me, "Nikki this is just crazy are you sure your not just car sick." Upon arriving home as we entered the house the phone was ringing. I picked it up and on the other end was the county hospital. They ask is this the residence of Christian sean Turner. I said yes he is my brother, they ask who I was and then to speak to a parent. My mom went pale and flew out of the house. My brother was dead, he died in a motorcycle accident just an hour before. I'm not psychic, I did not know what happened, I never saw it coming. I have never had that experience before or after that day.

        • 6 votes
        #3.2 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:43 PM EDT
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        If the past, the present, and the future are all occuring at the same "time", then maybe we see ghosts when those membranes in the space/time continuum touch.

        • 7 votes
        Reply#4 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 4:25 PM EDT

        What if C.A.T. really spelt dog...

        That's heavy Ogre!

        • 1 vote
        Reply#5 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 4:43 PM EDT

        Silly people believe silly things... many universes exist at the same time. NOW vibrate at that level and you can see it or better said feel it.. Most would have you believe in something outside yourself..how does it ring to you? When you say nothing else exists.does it ring true or not? Of course you know better.. of course you know that this planet would not orbit in perfection if not for some intelligence telling it to. So do you believe in ghosts or you want to wait til one bites ya in the arse? Or do this simple test.. try to remember as far back as you can.. keep going past your birth.. you'll see....

        • 3 votes
        Reply#6 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 4:58 PM EDT

        First of all, the planets are not in perfect orbits. The circular models typically shown are overly simplistic designs- this is widely known, but it's typically done because it's easier to show. Earth, which has one of the most circular orbits of any of the planets, still varies in distance from the Sun from the nearest point of its orbit (in January) to the furthest point in its orbit (in July) by roughly four million miles. Other planets, especially the outer gas giants, have much less circular orbits, in large part because they're further away from the Sun (and thus less affected by its gravitational pull) and closer to the other gas giants (and therefore more affected by their gravitational pull).

        Study the actual science behind something before claiming that something's got to be intelligently designed because you don't know how it works.

        • 5 votes
        #6.1 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:04 PM EDT

        God invented the rules of physics. Why would you expect that God would have planets go in perfectly circular orbits?

        • 1 vote
        #6.2 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:30 PM EDT

        they are not perfectly circular ya twit....god is a figment of a deluded mind....quit drinking that wild turkey and start taking care of yourself better.....maybe if you were sober more you wouldn't make stupid statements about ridiculous fantasies....or if not that at least move up to a better grade of booze!!

        • 1 vote
        #6.3 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:34 PM EDT

        I heard someone once say that it takes more faith to be an athiest than it takes to be a Christian. All you have to do is look around you to see that God exists. You spend the majority of your life trying to dissprove God. Personally I don't have that much time. I sure wish I had that much faith. Guess i'll have to stick with my figment for the time being.

        • 2 votes
        #6.4 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 8:06 PM EDT

        How can anyboby think that God is just a..made up story, but then believe in ghosts..??

          #6.5 - Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:09 AM EDT

          Janelle please explain what around you shows that god exists. Im athiest and I dont ever think about religion until I hear someone like you spouting their beliefs and claiming everything about it is right. "You spend the majority of your life trying to dissprove God" Well here you are commenting multiple times trying to prove he is real. Keep it to yourself like most people do

          • 4 votes
          #6.6 - Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:09 AM EDT

          Janelle, those who spend time disproving god spend as much as believers do proving its existence. I'm an atheist and after I came to my personal conclusion that god does not exist (this is my believe, and I respect if you do believe in its existence) I have not spend time proving, or rather disproving its existence. It personally saddens me that (in the way I see it) that people believe in such nonsense as god, but I know I have no right to go around trying to convince others that god doesn't exist, and over all is none of my business. Just like you don't have that time to waste nether do I, and I won't spend my very valuable time disproving the existence of god because I already disproved it to the only person that I should care what believe they have and that is myself.

          • 3 votes
          #6.7 - Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:32 PM EDT

          Lady miss K

          I completly aggree with you. people need to understand that they cannot force their personal beliefs, whatever they may be, onto other people. also people shouldnt call others names or imply that they are crazy or something because they dont belive in the same things as they themselves believe.

            #6.8 - Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:02 AM EDT
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             Instead of mocking and ridiculing people let's hear from people about their own experiences with ghosts...........There are alot of people out there who have seen and experienced this phenomina..........The same kind of people who in a court of law can send you away for a long time............Why believe them in court but not when they claim to have seen a ghost?

            • 4 votes
            Reply#7 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:05 PM EDT

            Because in a court of law, eyewitness testimony is actually considered to be the least credible source of evidence. Especially when it's accompanied by a blatant appeal to authority.

            In Fatima, Portugal in 1917 thousands of religious pilgrims claimed to have seen the Sun wobble in the sky, then crash down into the ocean. Given that the Sun is still in its place at the center of the solar system and about 93 million miles away from the Atlantic Ocean and that many other people, both in Fatima and around the rest of the world didn't see this happen, they probably didn't actually see what they thought they saw.

            • 7 votes
            #7.1 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:12 PM EDT

            and your point is?

              #7.2 - Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:54 AM EDT
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              I am a believer. I have literally seen things fly across the room and shatter against the wall. I have seen stoves turn on by themselves and also microwaves. I have seen things that cannot be explained. Never actually seen a ghost but have seen things happen. What else can it be? Go ahead scientists....explain

              • 4 votes
              Reply#8 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:05 PM EDT

              Wrong dosage.

              • 9 votes
              #8.1 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:30 PM EDT

              I tend to be skeptical and I am a scientist (Biologist), but I have a hard time explaining everything. One of my relatives purchased a home where the previous elderly owner had died in the basement. They would often hear footsteps on the stairs and several time the basement door would lock on them. The strange thing was that the door could only be locked from inside - you could not lock it and pull it shut. They had to call someone to help them "break in" several times before removing the lock for good.

                #8.2 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:54 PM EDT

                I agree, the article only explained away noises, cold spots, etc. things that can be explained away easily...interesting that they didn't bring up those who have experienced actual objects being moved without explanation...well scientists...what's your answer? It annoys me that scientists think they know everything. They will not believe anything that doesn't make sense to them like spirit entities or intelligent designers. I think it's very narrow minded and arrogant of them to think there isn't anything that exists that cannot be explained. We're specks of dust in this universe and cannot assume to know it all.

                • 3 votes
                #8.3 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:10 PM EDT

                That's because the objects that move on their own mysteriously stay still any time there's a group of scientists around recording things.

                • 5 votes
                #8.4 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:13 PM EDT

                The scientist had to write something. After all the tax payers paid for his grant. He probably never left his office.

                  #8.5 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:14 PM EDT

                  What is happening in your house is what you they refer to as "Hunted." However, the truth is that their are dead souls living in your house and you need your spiritual authority from you local church to pray and rebuke those spirits out of your house. The reason items move is because they want your attention so they can instill fear and possession can occur if it hasn't already. You need prayer for yourself and your home. This is urgent; get help fast.

                    #8.6 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:20 PM EDT

                    here's another boob who needs to step away from the bottle on occasion and assess his state of mind.....puhleeeez put down that MD 20-20 and take a drink of cranberry juice or something healthy.....your mind and body will appreciate it.

                    BTW....those things flying accross the room were probably being thrown AT YOU....ya nitwit!

                    • 1 vote
                    #8.7 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:39 PM EDT

                    And scientists have no religion, don't believe in a higher power. The very one that created them!

                    • 2 votes
                    #8.8 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:45 PM EDT

                    hey michael,

                    you dont need to criicize people and imply that they may be alcholics just because they believe in something that you dont. criticize all you want but must you do it so negativly??

                    and ghost hunter,

                    some scienticsts do have religon/ spirituality. One of the deans at my school is a scientist and she teaches franciscan values ( i go to a franciscan catholic college) also i know a few nuns who have docterates and scientific deggrees in biology and they are NUNS!

                    • 2 votes
                    #8.9 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:28 PM EDT
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                    Was not a believer until a series of events that made me wonder. IMHO... paranormal events may be something that physics just has not yet explained. My preferred explanation are "time slips."

                    • 5 votes
                    Reply#9 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:06 PM EDT

                    this sounds like christians are trying to be sarcastic and imply oh silly you excuses to devalue the possibility that anything outside of the single god notion is invalid. OH SILLY THEM!

                    • 3 votes
                    Reply#10 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:06 PM EDT

                    I am a very strong Christian, and believe I have had paranormal experiences. So don't stereotype, or over generalize. :) I may not believe in ghosts, but I believe in spirits and energies.

                    • 1 vote
                    #10.1 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:04 PM EDT

                    the stronger the christian the weaker the mind.....and that is generalization for all of you to consider.

                    • 2 votes
                    #10.2 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:43 PM EDT
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                    I Suggest to anyone who comes in contact with a Human Spirit or a Demonic Spirit to Always remember that your safety is Priority "one" Never provoke a Spirit....

                    • 1 vote
                    Reply#11 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:09 PM EDT

                    true true!! never provoke a spirit.....just leave the bottle alone.....walk away!

                    • 1 vote
                    #11.1 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:44 PM EDT

                    Right, because everybody who believes in something is an alcoholic.

                    Just like people who come on websites just to criticize and insult people probably have no friends.

                    • 1 vote
                    #11.2 - Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:37 AM EDT
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                    I would love to see dead people - if only!

                    • 1 vote
                    Reply#12 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:10 PM EDT

                    Could you imagine walking around seeing random "dead" people?! Haha...what a spectacle!

                      #12.1 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:43 PM EDT
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                      I'm sorry....but....I have lived in a rental home with my family (when I was in middle school/junior high) that had some "stuff" going on. Come to find out two other families experienced some of the same things. We didn't know that when we rented the home, and my parents moved us out 6 months after because of these things.

                      Please explain to me how I saw a black cat run under my bed? Or my mom and I both heard "something" answer a question I asked my mom when we were the only ones in the house? Or how I saw a black "shadow" come down the stairs. Those are just a few of the many things that I saw and heard, that doesn't include other family members or other people who had once occupied the home. Are there three families seeing things that aren't really there? Why were people who didn't know (friends) saying they saw something in the house?

                      I can see how it's hard to believe. Seeing really is believing. I'm not a person who sits and watched "TAPS" or "Ghost Adventures" everynight, or tries to go "ghost hunting." I don't see random dead people walking around. I don't play with ougi boards and I don't believe in pychics. I believe in what I have seen, and what I've been able to feel and hear.

                      It wasn't a matter of fear...I was afraid of a cat going under my bed, and when the lights got switched on and off on me from outside the bathroom I started "yelling" at my dad, thinking he was doing it. I'm not scared of these things because I don't think they can hurt you.

                      I'M NOT CRAZY I TELL YOOOOU!!!!!!

                      :)

                      • 6 votes
                      #13 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:11 PM EDT

                      I've seen the shadow demon as well. Google The Hat Man. Just found out it had a name not too long ago.

                      • 1 vote
                      #13.1 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:13 PM EDT

                      wasn't* afraid rather :)

                        #13.2 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:14 PM EDT

                        Seeing is believing. Something i would not ever had believed in if i didn't see it for myself

                        • 2 votes
                        #13.3 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:17 PM EDT

                        Liz, I did do some googling after this all happened, I heard about the "shadow men" with the top-hats. I'm not sure how much I buy into that exactly....but this house was built in an area of an old Indian Fort in Washington State. When they went to remodel they dug up bones, and reburried them on the property. The "original" owners were the landlord's parents, the mother died in the house. It had a lot going for it. Being a kid my parents didn't tell us about the bones or the lady dying in the house because they didn't want to scare us (they told us this later). They also did not disclose a lot of things they experienced until after we moved (6 months after moving in!). Ahhhh I don't care if people are skeptics, I was until I had experiences. I'm not a person now that believes everything I see that is "paranormal" is a ghost, but I'm not skeptic.

                        • 1 vote
                        #13.4 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:18 PM EDT

                        The hat doesn't seem to play a part in the type of shadow demon or where it comes from. The one I saw had the fedora hat on...lol. Seems really stupid but it was the most scared I've ever been. Typically just a manifestation of evil. At least that's what it felt like.

                          #13.5 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:21 PM EDT

                          Yeah. I've researched, but I try to keep it on the downlow. Haha. I'm 23 now, it's been about 10 years, and I'm still living with things, still very interested in them, but when I tell people of course they think I'm bonkers! My parents told us not to tell anyone at school because they didn't want people to think our family was insane. But, two kids I went to school with, their parents lived in the house before us, when the kids were little ones, they knew about it. There was a variety of different things in that house. It's not something I'm scared of, but, hey....it's a good set of stories to send chills up someone else's spine :D

                            #13.6 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:23 PM EDT

                            I told my family a couple years ago, and found out my aunt sees the same things but she's able to talk to them. Guess it runs in the family lol

                              #13.7 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:25 PM EDT

                              I also have experienced this. There have been several times I feel a presence in my bedroom in the middle of the night, and banging on the windows and doors. Also one time something opened up the cupboard right in front of my bedroom door, no one else was home at the time. Both my mother and I also hear what sounds like several people talking very quietly. My cousin, she actually sees and interacts with the ghosts. Until someone can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that they do not exist, I am a believer.

                                #13.8 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:26 PM EDT

                                Actually not believing in everything you see is being a skeptic lol. Thats a good thing. As far as the hat man goes i don't really know how you can tell if its evil or not. Seems like whether or not its good or evil it would be pretty creepy to experience it. I think that alone would make it appear evil even if its not. Some religions believe that all ghost are evil spirirts. Then there are some that just think what we experienced is our imagination. I know its not but alot of people are closed minded about things.

                                • 1 vote
                                #13.9 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:29 PM EDT

                                I see your point, you have to have an open mind. I never saw "ghosts" as "people". I mean, where my skeptisim comes in is people saying they've seen full bodies "apparitions" in a gown or something! But that's because all I have ever seen is tall black shadows and a black cat. I've heard *a voice once or twice (at that house). I have heard that those "shadows" are evil, but I don't know, I don't look into that stuff too much online because no one REALLY knows anyway. We all saw different things, and I always thought that these "things" showed themselves to people differently. Haha. Okay, I'm stepping off my soap box :)

                                • 1 vote
                                #13.10 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:34 PM EDT

                                This Wiseman character is a complete idiot. His article isn't even worth reading. He doesn't address touch, sound, or visuals. I am surprised he is able to publish this trash to tell you the truth.

                                • 5 votes
                                #13.11 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:38 PM EDT

                                Can you explain to me that after my husband passed away when I was very upset and crying the light on the table next to my bed would come on all by itself and I felt a touch on my arm. This went on for two weeks. It stopped when I asked him to go to the light.

                                • 2 votes
                                #13.12 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:44 PM EDT

                                What a moron. What you are debunking can also be debunked. I agree with the sleep paralysis, however what gives you the right to tell the majority of America that they are simply "crazy?" The only reason there is a paranormal "craze" these days is because people are finally opening up about there own personal experiences. Why? Because it is FINALLY in the mainstream. Good luck selling your book ANYWHERE in the world jackass.

                                • 3 votes
                                #13.13 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:57 PM EDT

                                Believe what you will, my daughter is able to "see" things I can. When she was 6 she described to me the man in our back yard. A revolutionary soldier. I did the research and our property was 1500 feet from a revolutionary grave yard. She "knows" things about strangers that she couldn't possible know from observation and she doesn't ask a lot of silly questions to get there, in fact she prefers that people don't talk to her at all before or during a "reading" ( that she does not charge OR take any money for) she does not do this as a profession. I can't explain it. But I do believe her.

                                • 2 votes
                                #13.14 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:57 PM EDT

                                I have seen the Black Shadow also. When I first moved into the house I am in now, my brother, who was 3 and me(14 at the time) saw it going down the stairs. I tried to follow it but when i got to the last step there was such a horrible feeling i high tailed it back up the stairs. Now every night when I go into the hall way to put my daughter to sleep I get the same feeling of dread, I get a creeping feeling up my spine and my legs almost lock up. My brother who is now 6 still remembers it, but if I bring it up my parents get mad for trying to "scare" him.

                                This isn't the first time I have seen stuff, I saw my great grandmother right after she passed away. She sat by me for about twenty minutes then got up went to the door, all I saw was a bright light then she was gone. There were also ghosts in my old house, that i remember from when I was a kid, my neighbor even saw one when we went into my house while everyone was gone. Probably the scariest time was several months ago when me and my friend were discussing these "impossible" things we have seen. I was telling him about the shadow and made a joke about how it was a lowly demon or however i said it, right after i said that a bunch of stuff flew across the room and lid to a tin bucket almost hit me in the head. scared my friend so bad he told me to look up protection spells :)

                                  #13.15 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:04 PM EDT

                                  What a moron. What you are debunking can also be debunked. I agree with the sleep paralysis, however what gives you the right to tell the majority of America that they are simply "crazy?" The only reason there is a paranormal "craze" these days is because people are finally opening up about there own personal experiences. Why? Because it is FINALLY in the mainstream. Good luck selling your book ANYWHERE in the world jackass.

                                  Just having a lot of other people believing something doesn't mean that it's actually real. There was a time when most people believed that the Earth was flat and that diseases were caused by being cursed by a witch.

                                  Any first year psychology student could explain phantom sensory perception to you. When we perceive something, like the computer screen you're looking at right now, we're not looking directly at an unfiltered image. Instead, photons are hitting receptor cells in the backs of our eyes. This causes nerves to fire electrical pulses which are transmitted to the optic centers of our brain, where the electrical pulses are translated into an image. The same thing happens for all our other senses. However, these transmissions are not perfect. Sometimes, the nerves transmit the electrical pulses in the wrong pattern. This causes us to see, hear, taste, smell, or feel (touch is actually, as it turns out, several different senses that are independent of each other) things that aren't there. This is a well known phenomenon and it's been widely studied and replicated numerous times. Then, of course, there are simply the people who are either intentionally lying or simply remembering past events incorrectly. People like to complain about how science makes up explanations for things, but I've noticed that such people are invariably the ones who are the most ignorant of science.

                                  • 5 votes
                                  #13.16 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:26 PM EDT

                                  Oh my, I started quite a conversation! haha. There are many things in this world that can not be explained by science, but, the job of "science" is to try find a rational explanation for unexplanable things. I do agree that the explanation he is gving for these things, basically brushing thing off, is ridiculous (except sleep paralysis, I think he's right on about that!). It's not a scary thing to me that there "might" (to me there is) "something" lurking that we can't explain, it's exciting and although I'm not going to run out and consult a pyschic or hold a seance in an abandoned building, I don't mind running into "strange things" now and then.

                                    #13.17 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:30 PM EDT
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                                    Not that I don't think the mind is an incredible thing and can sometimes trick us into perceiving something that isn't there. What I've experienced in my life is too strong and vivid to just brush away and say "this was a misperception and I saw it because I wanted to." Feeling a presence is one thing. It could be leftover energy from an event etc. Seeing a presence is something I've not only experienced on multiple occasions, but had group experiences that were not sought after - no creepy stories, no Ouija boards etc. Maybe if I had been searching, and found something, I would agree. But I would bet my life that even if the ghost/demon I see is just energy, it's still something, and not just a pure fantasy.

                                    • 2 votes
                                    Reply#14 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:11 PM EDT

                                    Until you've actually seen a full bodied apparition for yourself, it's easy to say those things don't exist. I've seen a ghost in my house on more than one occasion. The first time I was awake and looking at the closed door to my bedroom, there was a light coming in from outside the door & I thought my son had gotten up & was coming in my room. I sat up waiting for him to come in, when a woman "appeared" at my dresser, she went around the dresser & in through the bathroom and disappeared. I was fully awake. How do you explain that? According to this "scientist" it's comforting? Hmmm, really?

                                    • 2 votes
                                    Reply#15 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:13 PM EDT

                                    i got in an argument with my mother over taking allergy medicine in my early teenage years, so when i gave in and walked into the bathroom i made one last disgusting remark to the medicine then when i turned my back every bottle of medicine on the shelf flew across the room banged into the wall and fell into the tub....

                                      Reply#16 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:13 PM EDT

                                      I've had too many tangible experiences for it to be all in my head. I believe ghosts (or spirits) are real.

                                      • 5 votes
                                      Reply#17 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:13 PM EDT

                                      Me too. I can't even begin to tell anyone my experiences. They'd think I was crazy. I have had phenomenoms that I thought were normal for everybody since I could talk. Then, actually had a break down that turns out to have been part of the whole phenenomen that has been in the workings for my entire life. And have been a guinea pig on mental meds that every one except 2 in combination help, which should not even be working on me because they are not even at therapeutic dosages. Anyway, the holy sprit helping me is actually showing me the way and healing me. It's hard to explain. Very long story and very deep. But, me figuring out I'm not really crazy, all started from meeting the right person, you know like touched by an angel, then I was led on to my mission. I had a complex childhood, some of it super happy, and much out of tune with the world and lost and never with the proper friends or role models. I mean I had a roof over my head, I thought decent loving parents, food when needed, felt safe. But, for some reason that was not everything I needed. My parents had flaws that I did not realize until recently. I'm a kind of person that prays a super lot now. When I was younger, I didn't know the power of praying asking and telling and thanking the holy spirit, God, angels, guiding angels, etc. that are listening always what is on your mind and the power of emotions. They listen when you put your all into it. The spirit I believe is in everyone. Everywhere you go you can be helped. They are always watching if not in you already. It's beautiful how this world fits together as one. How afterlife of your soul is just the next life with the next mission. Some may die at 5 years old, while others at 99 years old. Some may not finish the intended mission planned with God on Earth before death, so they may come back and finish or start a different mission. Some believe Heaven could at some instances be on Earth. If at suddenly a certain time in your life a sort of rite of passage takes place and a sort of whole new life style comes about, and it's like doing a 180. Some say Heaven came. The next life or afterlife, another type of afterlife. I could go on and on and on... The evolution emerging... The Scrolls found a while back called The Celestine Prophecy from God... Leave it there.

                                        #17.1 - Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:20 AM EDT
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                                        I am a Christian, hold fast to my beliefs in God and our church and believe everything in the bible is true. I'm also a member in the Indiana Ghost trackers. I have seen evidense that can't be 'de-bunked'. I have heard very clear recordings of other-worldly voices. Maybe before you leave a comment and make yourself look VERY foolish you should research the data a little more. You'll find that all different religions all over the world have different versions (and similar stories) regarding paranormal activity. You might also correct your ignorance when you realize just how many stories and compiled imformation regarding ghost encounters involve the clergy and other holy leaders.

                                        So before you condemn religion, and prove that you haven't done any research on your own, get the whole story AND get ALL the facts.

                                        • 2 votes
                                        Reply#18 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:14 PM EDT

                                        Well said. bravo.....

                                          #18.1 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:03 PM EDT

                                          another fruitloop with the mind of a turnip.....IQ in the double digits.....christians are the dumbest of the dumb....ANYONE who believes the bible word for word needs serious mental help....and a lesson or two in comprhending the english language....the entire book is a jumble of junk most of which makes little or no sense at all. Put down the wine bottle start drinking and eating healthy....get some exercise and fresh air....maybe THEN your mind will clear up enough for you to realize what a nitwit you are.

                                          • 4 votes
                                          #18.2 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:52 PM EDT

                                          Michael, I have never had a sip of alcohol, I graduated top of my class, and I was M.V.P of my highschool soccer team. After all that I know Ghost and other worldly subastabces are out there why? because I live in haunted house. Also, if the Bible was a big load of crap and nothing from the Bible is true than how come scientist have found evidence that some of it is actually true. They HAVE found Noah's arch in Tourkey. Also in the Bible they talk of giant beast that roam the earth (dinosaurs). So are you saying dinasours have never existed? Gosh people theese days....

                                          • 2 votes
                                          #18.3 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:29 PM EDT

                                          I am a Christian and believe that much of the paranormal instances are Angels being there to protect us from harm. Around 25yrs ago my son (he was 7) went to my daughters home because her father was in town and wanted to see us. When we arrived she was a nervous wreck.

                                          On her way home from work, in rush hour traffic on the interstate , some scaf -foling(?) flew between her car and the car in front of her barely missing her car. After we left, I was driving the back way home and there were bright headlights behind me coming fast. I tried to get away from them but I hit some wet leaves in the road and started doing doughnuts. Whoever it was didn't bother to stop to see if anyone was hurt, the truck just kept on going. Then when my car did stop spinning, it started to slide towards a tree. All I could think was "Please don't let anything happen to Danny, my son". Then it felt like someone or something took the back end of my car and pulled it around the tree. I couldn't steer the car and had my hands over my face and pushed Danny down so I know that I didn't get myself and my son out of that mess. I truly believe that we had a guardian angel riding with us as well as my daughter that day.

                                          • 1 vote
                                          #18.4 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:36 PM EDT

                                          michale,

                                          your comments make me think of a story i have heard, i think it was on youtube but i could be wrong. there was a student at UCLA i believe who was a very strong christian, but he had to take this one class where the proffesor was a complete athiest. the first day of class he would ask anyone if they beilived in God to stand up. nobody would, even if they did believe. he would then say if there was a god then when i drop this chalk it wouldnt break. well on that day of class the student stood up. the proffessor then went on to criicize him and call him an idot. he did his usual chalk drop, only this time the chalk rolled down his pant leg, bounced off his shoe and rolled to a stop, completly intact. the proffesor left classroom. i may be wrong on some of the details but you canfind it on youtube. its called the chalk story.

                                          maybe it will make you think and open up your mind a little

                                            #18.5 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:48 PM EDT

                                            I think this is the chalk story you're referring to:

                                            Well worth reading, if only as an example of how details get lost in the process of a story being passed from one person to another.

                                              #18.6 - Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:59 AM EDT
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                                              My best friend was ill; cancer. One night I awoke to soft lights flickering in front of me. I looked at the clock, it was a few minutes after 10 pm. The next morning her husband called to say she had died @ 10 pm. I believe she was saying goodbye.

                                              Our dog of 12 yrs passed & I kept hearing him snore, grunt, as he would when sleeping. I never told anyone for fear they would think I was loosing it. One day, my daoughter was there, I heard his familiar sounds...I looked at my daughter & she at me. We both asked at the same time....did you hear that???

                                              I have had other experiences, but I thought sharing two would be enough...Ghosts, I don't know.... spirits on their way, letting you know, they cared & you were important to them. I believe....

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                                              Reply#19 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:14 PM EDT

                                              For almost a month before my father passed away, I was dreaming like somebody is dying with thirst. I didn't know that it was my father. Samething happened in my real life. My father was asking for water and we couldn't understand him because of ventilation he was having.

                                                #19.1 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:56 PM EDT
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                                                It seems pretty egotistical to me, to believe that because we, as humans, don't understand something or can't explain it, it doesnt exist. Science might not be able to explain it at present, but a hundred years from now--who knows? My comment to those who don't believe a spiritual world exists is to open your eyes and pay attention to the world around you. You just might change your mind.

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                                                Reply#20 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:15 PM EDT

                                                I agree. If we pay attention and open our eyes & mind, spirits will eventually enter your life. I was afraid at first but after living in our house for 3 years I realized they meant no harm. I feel them sit on my bed. They like to turn lights and TVs on. My son always talks to someone in the hall and he says it is a friend. Funny thing is, the hall is where I first felt something and was later told by someone who is (tuned in to spirits) that the hall was where they felt the strongest presence. None of this was said around my son, besides, he was a baby when all this first happened. I keep most of this to myself since some people will call us "crazy". :0) Let them I guess.

                                                  #20.1 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:42 PM EDT

                                                  When I was a kid I was spending the night at a friend's how. I was sleeping on the couch downstairs when I woke up for some reason, I saw his 'sister' come down the stairs and go into the kitchen. I got up to go to the bathroom (Thru the kitchen) and when I went into the kitchen there was no one there.

                                                  The next morning I told my friend about it and he said that I had seen the 'girl' and I asked what girl. He told me that before his family bought the house a teenage girl had killed herself with a rifle. His parents confirmed it and showed me the bullet hole in the corner of the wall.

                                                  They all agreed that they had seen her before. Many Strange things have happened to me but I don't question then... Just accept them and ask (the spirt) if they need a

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                                                  #20.2 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:23 PM EDT
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